"Eighteenth Century Emigrants From Langenselbold in Hesse to America *

The data base IS NOT DONE! *

North Carolina and Virginia Civil War *

Rader family--8^th generation Casper Roeder—i think *

Did you know that: *

collecting George RADERS *

Margaret Rader’s, Dulaney, Greene County, TN (computer CD-ROM) *

Several jobs need to be done which are not presently in a satisfactory condition. The tombstone project needs a non-profit organization to push it forward. The reunion committee needs to be formed in order to promote and organize reunions. And I am sure you would add to the list of worthwhile tasks. If you have a particular project, Volunteers are most welcome !

I feel that we need to get to work on the specific problem of correcting the genealogy data in the collection. The obvious first question is, what is correct ? I have people on both sides of many claims. There are sufficient errors in the record that we may never get it all correct. I intend to try to gather ALL claims and document them completely.

In the first week of December 1998, I have obtained the equipment and software necessary to proceed. The state of Virginia is showing the way with their web project.

At their site you will see how they are presenting all of their collection. http://image.vtls.com/

I can now use the same methods to do that for the Rader families. Because of a limited budget I intend to make them available on CD-ROMs. I will put scanned copies of all proofs, evidence, on these disks. With the proofs in your hands you will then be able to weigh the evidence for yourself. I hope to create disks for each area and/or line of descendancy.

If you have a particular position on a line which you wish to argue I would be most happy to include it on the disk and in the newsletter. Please send copies of any proofs you may have and/or citations to other proofs which you may not have. I will scan ALL of them into the record. If there is a disputed record please attach a note to that record. I can then include those comments with the record and those who follow us will be able to follow our logic.

To those of you who have already submitted such information, I thank you and you can be sure your information will be added to the files as fast as I can get to them.

Welcome to my historical resources page for the Upper New River Valley of North Carolina and Virginia. (Ashe, Alleghany, Watagua and Wilkes County, North Carolina and Grayson County, and Southwest Virginia). http://www.ls.net/~newriver/nrv.htm

1. 60th Virginia Infantry, Confederate States Army
2. Nominal Roster of the 5th Virginia Cavalry, (2nd Organization)
3. Nominal Roster of the 2nd Virginia Cavalry

The works on this site can be ordered from

60th Virginia Infantry, Confederate States Army

Order Form to buy a detailed regimental history by J. L. Scott.

The 60th Virginia Infantry, orginally known as the 3rd Regiment Infantry, Wise Legion, was formed on August 13, 1861, with 10 companies lettered A to K. An 11th company was added in September, but the regiment was again reduced to 10 companies when the orginal Company H was transferred to the 59th Virginia Infantry on November 5, 1861.

These 10 companies were:

The 60th Virginia Infantry was originally commanded by Colonel William E. Starke. Other field officers included: James L. Corley (Lieutenant Colonel), William A. Gilliam (Lieutenat Colonel), George W. Hammond (Major, Lieutenant Colonel), Beuhring H. Jones (Lieutenant Colonel, Colonel), William S. Rowan (Major), James W. Spalding (Lieutenant Colonel), John C. Summers (Major, Lieutenant Colonel), James W. Sweeney (Major, Lieutenant Colonel), Jacob N. Taylor (Major).

While serving as the 3rd Regiment Infantry, Wise Legion under Brigadier General Henry Alexander Wise, the unit fount at Sewell Mountain on September 27, 1861.

The 60th Virginia Infantry served in the Army of Northern Virginia in June and July 1862, and as such participated in the Seven Days Battles around Richmond and specifically at Gaines' Mill on June 27, 1862. Reassigned to the Department of Western Virginia and East Tennessee, served in the mountains from the fall of 1862 until the spring of 1864 as part of John McCausland's Brigade. From the spring of 1864 until the end of the war, the regiment served in the Shenandoah Valley as part of Smith's Brigade, Wharton's Division, under General Jubal Anderson Early. Engagements during this

period include Cloyd's Mountain, Piedmont, Monocacy, Winchester, Fisher's Hill, Cedar Creek, and Waynesboro. Roster

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Nominal Roster of the 5th Virginia Cavalry, (2nd Organization)

Nominal Roster of the 2nd Virginia Cavalry

Roanoke City and County, Virginia World War II Deaths

Transcribed by J. C. Weaver, November 20, 1998

ROANOKE CITY

RADER, WALTER J., Pfc., A. Mother, Mrs. Minnie S. Rader

Transcribed by Jeffrey C. Weaver, July 3, 1998

Please not that the first section was, in places, very difficult to read. The author of this document spelled things phonetically, and there may or may not be much resemblance to modern spellings. However, I tried to be faithful to the original despite these problems. The second section, done in a different hand was much easier to read and transcribe, and hopefully has fewer problems that the first section. First Section

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:17:00 EST From: UKNOWMEOK@aol.com glenna bible tsitseklis mullenix

I. earl—married louise collier-----2 children bill and betty

1. bill children unknown still alive so is billy as far as i know, we arent close
2. betty married, became betty legg----1 son butch-=in olympics for archery and rifle—they all lived in greeneville-betty died of breast cancer ~1979- ----butch is still alive and

earl was killed at work in the late ‘40s

II. lena----married bill dunkin---

1. --1 son james moore dunkin, cumming, ga.---married—divorced-----no children-----lena was tragically killed in an explosion at a store where she was working-circa. 1956, in aiken, s.c.-----loved by all-----won a "laughing contest" in early ‘50’s got to go to california as a prize----lived in knoxville most of life.

III nola-----married clayton boatman—

1. -1 child freda mae----born with cerebral palsy-developed polio at age 12-----still living at age 61--nursing home in knoxville, tennessee-

IV clayton died of cancer in ‘60s—nola died at age 83 in 1986.lived in knoxville.

V freda--------married grady c. wilson----no children-------he died ~1968---she

on march 19, 1984.—they lived in atlanta and retired to cumming ,ga on lake

lanier in 1960

VI margaret--------married cecil stone----no children--------he was killed in wwll, she died at age 84 in 1993 (i think)--------she lived her life in knoxville

VII glenna------------never married--------died in april, 1985-------2wks. After returning from a trip to the holy land. she would have turned 80 3 days after her death (we joked that she died just so she wouldn’t have to get any older) loved by all------one of the biggest reception lines at the funeral home when she died.. when the minister told her they were looking for a roommate on her upcoming trip to israel she replied " i hope he’s good-lookin’" keep in mind she was 79yrs. old----she looked 65 or younger-------wore high heels, etc.---very stylish in early life on through to the end. ( i hope to send

pics, if i can learn how to do the dern --------thangs) she lived in knoxville

VIII newton edgar -----married clarice ramsey------3 fabulous children----

1. rebecca jane, rebecca "becky" married bill johnson of alabama-----they had 3 children---eric, kevin, jennifer----------becky died of cancer ~1991 due to life-long asthma---she lived in chattanooga, tennessee
2. dana ramsey, dana married faye kirkland of knoxville -------2 children---amy and cary------dana and faye now live in palm beach, fla.—he is Dr. dana bible---teaches at a college—philosophy mark lives in jeffereson city, tn.---is married and has 1 adopted son---
3. mark rader mark’s wife’s name is karen "ed" as he was known was a quiet man with a dry sense of humor and loved to play practical jokes-----he was a bus driver for trailways and was well - respected and requested for charters and was written about in the news-paper several times for being unique-------once, a little old lady questioned why the new driver of her bus wasnt getting out to help her tote her bundles up the driveway, he told her it wasnt his job to do that, she told him, in no uncertain terms that "you’re certainly not the gentleman ed bible is" ed died at age ~70 in 1984
4. ---clarice is still alive. of course addie and selma died as children---i do not know the causes-----and it wasnt discussed---that i remember

IX. last, but certainly not least, is william doak bible-----stand back and git ready-------he was married

1^st to ? -----1 daughter doaka elaine bible-----

2^nd wife ---opal harris-----7 ( yes 7) children-----

1. me---glenna bible tsitseklis mullenix--------53yrs. old----married and divorced X2----1 adopted daughter—janice wolfe---1 grandson eric dane wolfe----i live in lenoir city, tn.—daughter, son-in-law, and gson live in rutledge, tn.----i was a registered nurse for 26yrs. and am now disabled with lupus and fibromyelgia--------wah----
2. ronnie earl------51yrs. old---lives in las angeles calif.----married and divorced X2-----0 children---
3. brenda sue--------49----lives in waleka, fla.---never married----disabled due to lupus----raises schipperke dogs-----shows dogs----has had one dog in the westminster dog show several times------animal lover extrodinaire.
4. newton grady "fig"-------47-----never married-------0 children—that we know of—ha he has had the red hair of some of our ancestors—only one of us 7------and he and i are the only 2 with blue eyes-----of course, it goes without saying that we ALL have the "premature" gray hair. well used to be "premature"---i have had gray hair since i was 18!
5. debra ann--------married 4 times, divorced 3, married to lonnie jones----------she has no children------(none of us has children but me and my daughter was adopted at age 9yrs.)----they also live in lenoir city , tn. as i and our mother do.debbie is 40 hahahahaha!!
6. william hobart------aged 38--------lives on douglas lake in dandridge, tennessee-----married X2-----divorced X1--------married to brenda human----she was my best friend 1^st though!!! ha now she is my sis-in-law.
7. jeffrey lynn-----age 35------married and divorced X1---------watch repairman-jewler extraordinaire-lol-musician---self-taught----"the baby"--------i am old enuff to be his mama!!!!! geez.................

The following two graphics are pages from CD#19 from Family Tree Maker’s "Family Archives" Genealogical Records" Egle’s Notes and Queries of Pennsylvania 1700s-1800s

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E-Mail - Subject: RADER -- Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:20:17 EDT

From: NNickell@aol.com -- To: jim@rader.org

I know from talking to you several years ago that you are striving for accuracy.

I've been distracted somewhat from RADER genealogy for the past couple of years [just your typical 60 year crises: my husband retired; we moved from an 8 room house to a two room condo [how do you put ten years of genealogy results in one box?;] last year we came to Ohio in Feb to be with my brother who died the day after Easter, and the following Saturday my mother- in-law was hospitalized with severe dehydration and depression; it was determined that she could no longer live alone, so we stayed until the middle of July until other siblings took over for their 3 month's shares. In August we left for a long planned trip to Alaska, just as the Canadian fisherfolk were blockading U.S. ferries.

The rest of our trip was a sit-com tradgedy of wonderfulness and woes. Of our group of 4 RV'S, one couple had to turn back the 2nd day due to RV troubles. Another couple left as planned after one month. We continued on with our other friends...RVing on the ferries thru the inland passage...and by flatbed railroad train an thru Denali. Then our friend had to be air-lifted to Seattle because her heart had gone into congestive failure. We cut our trip short and drove back with her husband, so he would not have to travel alone. When I got back to Bainbridge, my dau in law, who was renting our house, while our son finishes up his last hitch in the Navy, had boxed up all my files and did not remember what was where.

At any rate, we are back in Ohio again....and guess what? On our way here, I went thru Germantown, IN and got to "dance" besides the graves of my George RADER and Elizabeth ESTES/ATER etc. What a thrill!

I am so glad you have undertaken this web-site! It is truly magnificent. So I hate to nit-pick, but I copied this one section to question a few dates.

You have Dorothea's date of birth as 23 November, 1789....but say she was Baptized 19 Dec, 1773...and married Jacob LINSON 15 Mar 1809, when she would have Been 10 years of age. I figure it is just a typo or oversight, but it's in print...and you know how stuff in print is.

111. Dorothy 'Dolly' 'dorothea'Rader (Anthony Reader, Hans Adam3 Roder, Johann (Hans) Adam2, Adam1) was born in VA November 23, 1789. Dorothy died January 23, 1883 in Madison Co, OH, at 93 years of age.(30) She married Jacob Linson in Greenbrier Co, VA now WV, March 15, 1809. She was baptized in Rader Lutheran, Timberville, Augusta Co, VA, December 19, 1773. Dorothy's will was probated in Probate Court, Vol 1, page 145, Paralysis, 1883.(31) Dorothy 'Dolly' 'dorothea' Rader and Jacob Linson had the following

children: "

I am still collecting George RADERS...and trying to sort them out. It is my feeling that the George RADER who married Sarah DUNLAP did not die in 1830 Rockungham VA. If he is truly father of Adam who married Elizabeth McCLUNG, then they are all enumerated in 1850 Nicholas County, VA along with Hazel [a male, so rather unusual name], Sarah, and Austin, all purported to be children of Adam in the Dr. [of Veterinary medicine] William A. RADER's book.

With the new website of Bureau of Land Management records, I've located several other George's in Indiana...but have not placed them yet. Will be happy tosend them along if you are interested.

Nikki NICKELL...now of Snoqualmie Pass, WA 98068

We are trying to capture the essence of our family. The actual spark of life which they possessed. What did they find funny, what saddened them. Were they motivated to do specific things with their life. Did they have a time consuming hobby. Were their children their life ?

The CD-ROM which I have just produced has done that for one person, Margaret Rader. Margaret, known by her family as "sister", was the family archivist and historian for the little group of Raders in Dulaney, Greene County, TN. When a family researcher came to Dulaney, trying to find their roots, Doc Rader, Margaret’s father, would routinely call out "sister, get your book". She had a three ring binder which contained family group sheets and other information on the family. She would retrieve her book and photographs and spend time with those strangers/relatives.

Margaret, herself, created the material on this CD-ROM. She and her husband took the 8mm movies back in the 50’s and 60’s. She collected the family dates and photographs. She even recruited a projectionist to show her slides so she could describe them for posterity. This is Margaret Rader’s production.

Three of the movies on this CD-ROM really capture the fun loving personality of Margaret. The footage of her in Disneyland, with Goofy, is priceless. The clip from the end of her tape, describing the slides, is motivational to all of us as she closes with;

on this CD-ROM there are:

107 photographs

1. sound files

This CD-ROM contains 620 million bytes of information, presented in a form of an internet web site. The visitor is free to browse at his whim through the 8mm movies of the 1960’s. It contains some items from the early 1900’s, Photographs from the war era and many slides from the 1970’s. As you view the slides Margaret will describe them and the life around them to you in her own voice. When you finish enjoying this CD-ROM you will have a much better understanding of who and where you came from !

Jim Rader, 2633 Gilbert Way, Rancho Cordova, CA 95670-3513

For $29.99 (with 1 cent S&H it comes to $ 30.00) (International shipping $15.01)

Rader Ramblings (ISSN 1069-0905) is published quarterly by James Lee Rader, 2633 Gilbert Way, Rancho Cordova, CA 95670-3513. Annual rates are $15. POSTMASTER send address changes to publisher.

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