Rader Ramblings

James Lee Rader -- 2633 Gilbert Way -- Rancho Cordova, CA 95670-3513

24th Issue Spring 1997

Tombstone fund, It didn’t go away , we have started

and that is the hardest part, or so they tell us page 1

Rader Reunion Do you want to go to one

or do you know of one we can go to page 2

Charles Rader of Akron, OH translates

old german document for us ! this has Raders from before 1555 Erkersreuth, Selb, Weissenstadt, Marktredurty, Kleinwenderm are cities or villages in lower Bavaria, near the Czech border page 3

N.Y. Rader marriages recorded between 1938-1946 page 6

A place for Rader research,

this is just a brief visit, check it out !!!! page 7

Queries page 19

Tombstone fund

The Repass association recently replaced one of theirs with a Bronze monument which only cost $ 2, 000. What do you think, should we go for Granite or do twice as many restorations and do them in bronze ?

The tombstone of Reginia Rader wife of Casper is broken off and probably lost. Casper Rader’s tombstone is deteriorating badly. These stones were probably done by Lawrence Krone, a well-known Southwest Virginia stone artist of the early 1800s, who also carved an unusual coffin-shaped marker for Rev. George Daniel Flohr.

All of us who have visited their Gravesites have had the same feeling, something should be done to preserve our ancestors tombstone. I join you in hoping that we can raise enough money to replace these tombstones

"When we are gone, the knowledge we have dies with us unless we leave some permanent record behind. One of the sure ways to preserve our history is to see to the perpetual care of the first family’s resting place, to erect a memorial plaque to honor their memory that will tell all who stroll through the old St. John Cemetery that we take pride in the important part our family played in its history, as well as the early history of this country." Beverly Repass Hoch

Please send your donations made out to me ! If we get enough to cause me to worry about the tax consequences I will create a non-profit organization to handle it. But in the meantime I will keep the funds in my account and will publish a quarterly accounting here.

Also send me detailed nominations for grave sites that need attention. I will also publish that list and would appreciate your help in prioritizing the projects. Please provide specific information about the grave sites to be maintained and what they need.

My nomination

Casper and Reginia Rader,

St John’s Historic Cemetery, Wytheville, VA

The current fund contains $100, get your nominations in so we can move forward with these projects !

Rader Reunion

I would like to see more reunions so that we could get to know each other. If we have a reunion in an area that Rader families have lived for generations we could focus the gatherings on those people and the things they left behind. No matter where we get together we can have various social, educational and recreational activities.

As you all know travel is expensive so let’s see if we can figure the most convenient time place and date. For me the most convenient place is Sacramento California but what is good for you ?

Please fill out and return the enclosed Questionnaire and I will try to schedule something

p.s. If you know of a reunion and would like to see more of us there please send me an announcement early enough to get it in the newsletter. If you attend a reunion pleases send me pictures and a writup for the newsletter would also be nice!

Charles Rader of Akron, OH translates old german document for us !

Thanks for the fine work Charles !

In November of 1993 Jean Nissund (Immigrant Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 7369, Burbank, CA 91510-7369) copied many pages from Deutschen Familienarchiv ..

Band	Pages	date
46	48,104,107,140,173,177,178,215,216,266	1971

N.Y. Rader marriages recorded between 1938-1946

1938 no Rader. Laura E. Rador 12 Feb. Johnstown, NY cert. # 3993

1939 no Rader

1940 no Rader. Raeder, Margaret E. 23 Nov. Williston, PA #47096

1940 Rader, Pauline E. 28 Nov. Johnson City NY #44952

1941 Rader, Frances 30 Dec. Rochester #50690 (?)

1941 Rader, Mildred 4 Oct. Niagara Falls #46467

1942 no Rader. Radder, Doris 15 August Indian Fall #34907

1943 no Rader. Rayder, Beatrice 4 July Gloversville #16973

1943 Rader, Juanita B. 31 August Union #34385(?)

1944 no Rader. Radder, Arline B. 26 Feb. Buffalo FRAG #5589

1944 no Rader. Radder, Cora E. 7 Oct. Auburn DADO #29737

1944 Rader, Marie V. 19 Aug. Rochester MCBR #23814

1944 Rader, Ruth E. 20 March Corning SUTT #7152

1945 Rader, Virginia 3 Nov. Webster KIMM #38958

1946 no Rader. Radder, Clara B. 19 Oct. Buffalo HUMP #64143

1946 Rader, Dorothy M. 29 March Buffalo MACD #10024

1946 Rader, Genevieve 24 August Victor #58944

1946 Rader, Mildred P. 5 June White Plains CAVA #31284

A place for Rader research, this is just a brief visit, check it out !!!!

http://feefhs.org/feefhsei.html

Polish Army in France "Haller's Army" Recruitment Records

Surname......... Given name... City............... State.... Page..... Vol..Form

Rotter.......... Stanislaw.... Detroit.............. MI..... 8........ 72...C

San Francisco Call Newspaper: - 1878 Marriages -

Marriage Record Numbers 1878M-1 thru 1878M-3708

Webmaster's Note: These extractions of the San Francisco area birth, marriage, and death

records are being compiled from the pages of the San Francisco Call newspaper. This ongoing

project covers the three decades from 1875 through June 1905. This is part of a projected

collection of thirty such files. They represent the copyrighted creative "work in process" of Jim W.

Faulkinbury, C.G.R.S.

Rotter, Bertha......married......Miller, Henry......1878M-2882

Wandering Volhynians - German-Volhynian Newsletter - WV

SURNAME LIST - Q and R -

..... Ostrog

RITKE, Robert .... c.R537 .... f.R538

RITTER, Bertha .... c.R29 .... s.S37

..... Poland

RITTER, Elizabeth .... c.R320 .... s.M201

ROBERTUS, George .... c.R31 .... s.E6

ROBERTUS, Marie Elizabeth .... c.R30 .... f.R31 .... s.H30

RODAT, Wilhelmina .... c.R549 .... s.M435

..... Skaisgirren?, Lotzen, East Prussia

..... Neymanowka, Zhitomir, Volhynia

..... Neymanowka, Zhitomir, Volhynia

RODE, Carl .... c.R471 .... s.H517

RODE, Daniel .... c.R102 .... f.R103 .... s.S212

..... Volhynia

RODE, Emilie .... c.R470 .... s.H515

RODE, Fred .... c.R356 .... s.L177

RODE, Gustav .... c.R196 .... f.R103 .... s.T37

RODE, Josef .... c.R104 .... s.F75

RODE, Karl .... c.R195

RODE, Nettie .... c.R101 .... f.R102 .... s.G105

RODE, Sophie Dorthea .... c.R464 .... s.H479

..... Dombie, Poland

RODE, Wilhelm .... c.R103 .... f.R104 .... s.H57

..... Jasiniec N., Przdecz, Poland

RODE, Wilhelm .... c.R194 .... f.R195 .... s.E35

RODENS, Anna Caroline .... c.R81 .... s.K115

RODENS, Michael .... c.R82 .... s.K116

RODEWALD, Anne Rosine .... c.R114 .... s.S220

RODY, Marie .... c.R443 .... f.R444 .... s.T88

RODY, Nicholas .... c.R444 .... s.T90

..... Dubna, Russia

.... Dubna, Russia

ROEDER, Marya .... c.R446 .... s.F250

ROEDER, Rosine .... c.R243 .... s.F135

ROEDERS, Anna .... c.R260 .... s.R259

..... East Prussia

.... Wulke, Rowno, Volhynia

ROTHER, Ferdinand .... c.R126 .... f.R127 .... s.S241

..... Danischew, Poland

..... Andreaspol, Lodz, Poland

ROTHER, Maria .... c.R125 .... f.R126 .... s.G137

..... Kraszew, Pabianice, Poland

..... Lodz, Poland

ROTHER, Peter .... c.R127 .... s.?39

ROTZ, Eva .... c.R577 .... f.R578 .... s.P306

ROTZ, Jan .... c.R578 .... s.G441

RUCH, Daniel .... c.R246 .... f.R247 .... s.Q2

..... Beresina, Bessarabia

QUERIES

Query 1: Subject: Benjamin REEDER/READER St.Mary's MD>Overton Co.

Been researching WALKER residents in Overton Co.TN @1810-1855. Recently found a Benjamin REEDER living in household of John WALKER in 1840 in Overton Co.TN.

Research thus far:

1840 INDEX TO CENSUS OF REVOLUTIONARY WAR PENSIONERS page 157

---1840 CENSUS-- OVERTON CO. TN Rev. War Pensioner: READER, Benj. Age 80 (b. ca.1760) Name of head of family with whom pensioner resided June 1, 1840: John WALKER ---

--------- ABSTRACT OF REVOLUTIONARY WAR PENSION FILE: Benjamin REEDER b.1760 served MD Line, R17331, applied in 1837 Overton Co. TN, soldier lived in St Mary's Co. MD at enlistment and lived there 7 years after the Rev. then moved to KING WILLIAM Co. VA for 20 years then to Overton Co. TN.

---------- (Think I found him on 1828-29 Wilson Co. TN Tax List (Wilson adjacent to Overton Co.TN) 200 FAMILIES by Hugh F. WALKER Sr. TN State Library Lebanon, Wilson Co. TN Tax List 1828-29 (Wilson Co.TN adjacent to Overton Co.TN) REDER, Harris 47 acres READER, Edwin 117 READER, Benj 360 WILSON CO. TN TAX LIST 1827-29 1828 Capt. Barkley's Co. REDER, Harris 47 READER, Edwin --?-- READER, Benj 360 1829 Capt. Barkley's Co. p.265 Acres REDER, Harris 47 READER, Erwin 117(?) difficult to read READER, Benj 360

------------ LDS I.G.I. FILE shows a: St. Mary's Co. MD, St. Clemmets Bay Benjamin REEDER b. @1756 St. Mary's Co. MD -Susannah BOND m. 1782 St. Mary's Co. St. Andrews Parish father: John REEDER- Ann WARREN grandfather: Simon REEDER & Virtue REEDER 1600 England LDS I.G.I.File also shows a: REEDER, Milley mar. Bennett WALKER 27 APR 1802 St. Mary's Co.MD REEDER, Penelope mar.James WALKER 30 DEC 1806 St. Mary's Co.MD Any guidance your might be able to impart would be truly appreciated.

oranbrigham@mail.utexas.edu (E. Oran Brigham

Query 2: READER/REUDER,

My great great grandmother was : Catherine Elizabeth READER/REUDER, born about 18 Feb 1814 in Baden Germany died 15 October 1881 in Liberty Twp., Mercer County, Ohio

She married: Ludwig (Lewis) ANSELMAN (ANSELMENT) born 13 April 1809 in Ersingen, Karlsruhe, Baden, Germany died 3 December 1878 in Liberty Twp., Mercer County, Ohio They may have been married in Marion County, Ohio, or a nearby county, moving and appearing on the 1850 Clay Twp., Auglaize Co., OH census, and then the 1870 Liberty Twp., Mercer County, OH, census where they settled.

They were the parents of ten children: Charles b 6 Jan 1839, Mary Elizabeth b 1 Apr 1842, Anna Catherine b 3 June 1843, Caroline b about 1845, Rose Ann b 2 Feb 1845/1846, John b 15 June 1848, Joseph b 4 Aug 1850, Sophia b about 1855, Lewis b 14 Oct 1858, and George b 14 Feb 1860.

I have been unable to make a connection for Catherine Elizabeth (sometimes found as Mary) anywhere in Marion County, Ohio. The children's death certificates have used various forms of the name Reader. No maiden name was given on her death certificate. Her husband's family came into this country about 1830, so I know that they were married in the US and most probably in the Marion County area.

Any help you can provide will be greatly appreciated. My other e-mail address is dmdonovan@juno.com if the AOL address doesn't respond. We may only have it a week longer. If you think there is a connection to your information a sample newsletter would be appreciated. My address follows for snail mail. Thanks, Dianne S DONOVNA 10532 Rain Tree Place SE Pt. Orchard, WA 98367-9610

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Dianne S DONOVNA 10532 Rain Tree Place SE Pt. Orchard, WA 98367-9610

Query 3:

Rec'd your newsletter and accompanying information. You certainly have a task

in front of you and I wish you all the best of luck. Although I am not

researching this line, I am sending info on 2 Raders that come in on my

family. That is the best I can do for you.

Marilyn Stroup Spotsylvania VA 22553

1. Rader, Margie E.

d/o Philip Boston & Minnie Bright Rader

born Mar 1 1892 Pocahontas Co WV

md. Aug 18 1908 Pocahontas Co WV to Sutton, Edwin Willis

born Mar 11 1884 Pocahontas Co WV died Jun 12 1959 Penn Laird VA

2. Rader, Morgan Franklin

s/o David Huston & Mahulda McQuain Rader

born Aug 17 1874 died Nov 18 1961

md. date & location not known to:

Ervine, Nancy Jane born Apr 11 1869 Pocahontas Co WV died Jun 20 1934

Information on both of these taken from: Descendants of Michael Arbogast (ca.

1734-1812) Volume IV Adam Arbogast (1760-1852) Pocahontas County,

Virginia/West Virginia .

Marilyn Stroup Spotsylvania VA 22553

Query 5: I have a whole ton of Roeder relatives that may not be included in the

info you have. I have written to you in the past, however I was not organized enough to send you what I have. I will send you a hard copy of all my Roeder relatives. However, if you or anyone else on this server could help me it would be appreciated.

I am searching for the following:

Johann Roder(Roeder): Born: 18 Jan 1872 in Sandberg, Bavaria, Germany.(parents: Friedrich Roder and Rosalie Buhner; Sisters: Carolina, and Methilde). Immigrated: 22 Jan 1889. Married: Justina Kessler (b. 1 Oct 1875 in Germany). on 19 Sep 1893 in Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio. Died: 29 Dec 1945 in Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio.

Children:Frank J., Louis J., Rose M., Hildagard Anna, William Frank,

Loretta M., Gerturde, Herbert C., Raymond Carl, Edward R.

Any help would be great. I have not had too much luck in writing

Catholic parishes in Germany, any suggestions? Thank you everyone for

your time. Sincerely, David Dwyer.

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David and/or Dana Dwyer <dwyerdav@pilot.msu.edu>

Query 6: re: Rader and Leedys

Well, I have been searching for a long time now for someone on the

internet who might be working with Leedy descendents and finally, using Excite, I come across someone who is doing about the same thing as myself, only with a different surname.

Well, maybe we can help each other? I know, or at least I believe I can possibly add hundreds of names to your research on the Rader Family. I have spent several weeks in Wythe County compiling information on the Leedy family and have done the same in 13 other states. I have been compiling info on the descendents of the Swiss immigrant John Leedy aka Johannes Lidi (c1715-1760) since 1981 and have records that connect over 30,000.

This I do know for sure .... John Leedy I, who died intestate in York Co., PA, had 8 children live to maturity, all born in Lancaster and York counties, PA. His son 2-John Leedy II (1746-c1823), born an Anabaptist later converting to Lutheranism; was the progenitor of all the early Leedys in the Black Lick District (Wythe Co.) VA area. After the death of his 1st wife, he moved horseback to Evansham c1779 with his new wife and children from his 1st marriage. I found John Leedy's last will and testament filed in the Wythe Co., VA courthouse and it clearly lists all of his children including Jonathan. If you would like, I can send you a copy. This information clearly once and for all identifies the father of Jonathan Leedy. I would like to further

note that I doubt very seriously that Jonathan or Catharine moved to Greene Co., TN. Leedy family tradition indicates that Jonathan and Catharine were buried at St. John's, although I could not find their respective headstones in my visit in 1983 or 86 (however, they were

probably buried there).

2-John Leedy II was born 9/9/1746 in York Co., PA; died c1823 in Black Lick District, Wythe Co., VA; m1 c1769 in York Co., PA to (unknown spouse). She possibly died in having Mary Leedy. They had 4 known children. John m2 5/22/1779 in MD to Elisabeth (Fortney). They had 5 known children.

3-Catharina Leedy** c1770-1830 married 03-10-1795 to Christian Kegley

3-Abraham Leedy c1772-1795 married c1793 to Elizabeth Staley.

3-John Leedy III* c1774-1841 married 4-16-1793 to Polly Gullion.

3-Mary(Molly) Leedy c1777-c1838 married (?) Minnich.

from m2-----------------------------------

3-David Leedy* 1780-9/1/1872 m1 c1802 to Fanny Pemberton,

m2 12/31/1829 Kiturah Ann (?).

3-Elizabeth Leedy** c1783-?? married to John Johnston.

3-Jonathan Leedy* c1784-1852 married c1804 to Catharine Rader.

3-Joseph Leedy* 1786-1851 married 1807 Margaret (?).

3-Sally (Sarah) Leedy** c1792-?? married 4-11-1815 to Peter Clemens.

NOTE:

* I have very good or nearly complete records of descendents to current date for these.

** Would like very much to have better records for these. Do you have suggestions or clues?

I have seen the early records for St. John's Lutheran Church and have come to the conclusion that the Lady and Lydy spellings for Leedy in the earlier records for baptisms were simply spelling errors. Notice that the spellings for Leedy after 1834 become consistently correct!

I'm excited about your sight, so I hope you don't think I'm getting carried away. I would like to put my data out on the internet but don't have a clue on where to begin??? I'm using Family Tree Maker vers. 3.01 to organize volumes of hand written records and eventually publish, or go PDF on CD-ROM with Adobe Acrobat Reader.

By the way, you need to read Rufus Stewart Leedy's "The Ancestry of My People", or, see "The Leedy Chronicles." The later was a family-based newsletter published quarterly from about 1896- 1929. Leedys from all over the country responded with early descendent reports and

contempory family news as well. Rufus, a native of Wytheville, came to the national Leedy Reunion about 1913 via train. However, Rufus' account on the Wythe progenitor was not correct. Also, check your dates for Catherine Rader ... I have c1781. If, as your records indicate, she was born c1771, then she was nearly 59 years of age with her last child Catherine (should be Katherine?) was born?

If you would please E-Mail a response, I would gladly respond with any help I could offer. I notice that some of the names of spouses are a little different than what I have ... I have tried to maintain the purity of these names as much as possible from many different sources. Can you tell me where you got the names for this particuliar family?

Corrections to these records might be made:

(1) Rosina Leedy might be the same nick-name for my Rosannah Leedy, daughter of Jonathan & Catharine Leedy. She died unmarried c1838 in Wythe Co., VA. (2) Malinda Leedy married 9-13-1838 to Ebenezer Yonce. (3) Rebecca Leedy died c1841 and according to family tradition was buried in her wedding gown. (4) Rufus Leedy was always careful to spell Jonathan's youngest child as Katherine ?? Don't know if he was right however. I have a picture of Josiah and Sallie (Sally) Kegley that is very good.

My e-mail: jleedy@delnet.net

James B. Leedy, Jr. - 412 York Avenue - Delaware, OH 43015-1577

Query 5:: Walter Roeder

This probably is not exactly what you want to recieve, but I'm trying to help my father locate his sister who was adopted by Lt. Col. Walter Roeder in the Philippines during WWII. There is a possibility he was from NY. Any

information you might have would be appreciated.

Thank you, Leisa Hatch

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Leisa Hatch RLJHa@aol.com

Have you visited our home page on the internet yet ?http://www.rader.org my email address is jim@rader.org

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