Rader Ramblings
James Lee Rader -- 2633
Gilbert Way -- Rancho Cordova, CA
95670-3513
22
nd Issue Fall 1996
·
One Family’s Search for a Faulty Gene (from the Wall Street Journal
·
in Sevier County
·
John Reeder died in
·
WWII Röder soldier’s letter home -
has NOT arrived yet page 5
·
Ritter home page page 6
·
John Reeder Family Association 1630 page 6
·
An answer to = Rader Obituaries, can you place them page 6
·
Filmography for Jack Rader page 7
·
"Rader" is the swedish word for
lines page 8
·
In Germany Reder is Bicycle page 8
·
Rotter family tree going back to the year 16xx page 9
(This was from during the time of Hitler when all Germans needed to have their family tree
·
Rader reunion at
·
Internet correspondence example page
10
·
Eddie Rider publishes the “Rider Family Chronicles page 12
· Queries page 13
There is now actual
genealogy on our web site. As you will
remember from the 19th issue of this newsletter the site previously
contained information about our newsletter and various genealogy books on
Rader/Roeder lines. That is no longer
true as I have added over 300 new pages.
These pages are networked together to provide information on all known
immigrants plus descendants of two colonial immigrants.
I started with the descendants of Adam Rader, who is
the father of those in the
I then added my own immigrant
The third new section is the contents extracted from the Filby passenger list books. You will remember the information from issue 1 and 2 of this newsletter which was updated in the 5th issue. That 1992 update needs to be worked on because Filby has published several new yearly volumes since then.
(from
the Wall Street Journal
by Wendy Bounds
When the Slone family of
The Slones
carry a mutant gene for hereditary pancreatitus, a
rare and painful illness that causes the pancreas to literally digest itself
during attacks. Known in
Mapping family medical histories is at
the heart of genetics research. As
physicians try to establish heredity links for diseases from cancer to
diabetes, they are learning all they can about how such illnesses pass through
families. By doing intricate molecular
comparisons of those who are affected and those who aren’t, researchers hope to
pinpoint the exact genes responsible.
That, in turn, may lead to tests that can predict whether offspring will
have the disease or not, and ultimately to possible treatments as well
(one column
left out - see the Journal on page B1)
One weekend,
Mr Sloan
began to chronicle his findings on white poster board. With a green marker, he
underlined names of relatives who’d been diagnosed with pancreatitus
or recalled suffering similar pain. With
an orange marker he underlined those who also had diabetes.-
- -
Finding Kevin was a breakthrough; discovering that his father had constructed
a family tree was icing on the cake !!!!!
From
(thanks to Beverly Repass Hoch and Mary Kegley)
Henry Umbarger vs. Armbristers
Exor & Heirs.
file number is 1833-32-SC (basement Wythe Co., Court House)
This case gives several
facts =
Chancery suit that has to do with distribution of the estate of George Armbrister. Two of his
daughters married Raders. The following Bill of Complaint
(that sums up the case) and two exhibits involving Daniel Rader and Casper Rader. The style of the case is Henry Umbarger
vs. Armbristers Exor &
Heirs. The file number is
1833-32-SC (basement Wythe Co., Court House)
Bill of
Complaint
George Armbrister at the
time of his death left the following heirs and distributey,
to wit,
John Armbrister—
Casper Rader & Barbara
his wife -late Burbery Armbrister
Daniel Rader & Elizabeth
his wife late Elizabeth Armbrister
Henry Armbrister
Josep Derrick & Polly his
wife
Geere Whitsel
& Rebecca his wife late Rebecca Armbrister
Michael Armbrister
Lewis Bird & Sally his
wife late Sally Armbrister
Christopher Shreader who intermarried with
Catherine Armbrister who is now dead
Jacob, Polly, Betsey, Samuel
& Joseph Shraders children
Catharine and Jacob Derrick
& Barbara his wife
Daniel Rader’s Statement
Know all men by these presents that I Daniel Rader of Sevier County and State of
Tennessee am heald and firmly bound unto George Armbrister of Wythe County & State of Virginia in the
Just & full sum of Two hundred Dollars . . .
this fourteenth day of December One thousand eight hundred & fourteen.
The condition of the above obligation
is such that if said Daniel Rader doth transfer his right title claim and
interest … estate of George Armbrister
I
Casper Rader of the
when his youngest daughter comes of age
13th day of March 1824
The style of the case is
“Trigg vs King’s Exors etc”
The file number is
1834-21-SC it is in the courthouse basement of Wythe Co., VA
John Reeder died in
Court of Chancery
State of
This
day came William H. Stockton personally before me Robert Lindsay a Justice of
the peace in & for said county, and made oath in due form, That some time about the latter part of the
month of August or early September, 1820 he dilivered
to John Reeder (in the town of Carrolsville,
State of Alabama, the then residence of the J. Reeder) one leaf from the ledger
and one leaf from the journal of Morgan Triggs % of
Speedwell Ironworks Wythe County Virginia.
Said leaves containing the account of Handuross
& Trigg late of Arlington Virginia and when they were presented to him (J
Reeder) he stated that the Acct. was his hand writing and that at the time the
settlement was made the balance which exhibits was justly due & owing to
the J. Morgam, Triggs % and
that he knew of no payment or transfer
fines, by which the said balances or any part thereof had been satisfied, Deponent further states that in March last
he went as far as Huntsville on his way to Carrollsville
as agent of Rufus Morgan & .B. Trigg surviving partner of the firm of
Morgan triggs % to take the affadavid
of thr said John Reeder as to the Justice of the
above mentioned act and balance and when he arrived at Huntsville he was
informed by unquestionable authority of
the Death of J. Rader and
proceed no further having every reason to believe the information true
W.H. Stockman
sworn to this 6 th
day of April 1821 Robt
Lindsay
State of
George Morgan & Steohen Reeder appeared personally before Leven Powells a justice of the
peace for the county aforesaid & made oaths in due form of law that John Reeder of
sworn & subscribed to the 25th day of April 1820 before Leven Powell
There are more good documents in the
basement, if you are going that way be sure to contact Beverly and/or Mary to
see if you can get copies for us.
What is needed is someone with the time to
volunteer and do the xeroxing. The county charges may be as much as $1 per
page but as you can see it is worth it.
These actual original documents do not exist anywhere else
[JLR1]During World War II my
grandfather was handed a “Soldbuch” by a dying german soldier named Horst Röder. I have spent the last year and a half looking
for living relatives of this man. I
intend to return the book to the family as soon as I can. There are many pictures of family included in
the book as well as a letter to his wife Margareta Röder
one of the
few typed documents reads:
Dem Gefreiten (Dienftgrad)
Horst Röder (Bor
= und Suname)
2./ Div. Fus.
Btl. (A.A.) 334
Mr Anderson promised his dying
father he would get these items to the family.
If you can help please do. I hope to obtain good copies of the
photographs so that I can put them on the web so those European Internet users
can see them.
R.B. Anderson - 2942 Via
Del Lago -
p023032b@pbfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us
Antone Ritter has started support for his surname .
His homepage is at http://www.flash.net/~antone/geneaol.htm
His
EMAIL is antone@flash.net
and snail mail @
John Reeder Family
Association 1630
Miss Ernestine Siegel
I wrote to the above address a month ago but
have not received a reply. I have copies
of several years of their newsletter and intend to dig into them soon. What have you seen on Reeders ?
An answer to = Rader
Obituaries, can you place them
Rader - In
born
Jean Krogman
writes:
according to
the death certificates on file in
Charles
Lee Rader was born in
and
was the son of William T. Rader (
He
was married to Francis Pike.
Cause
of death was Amystrophic Lateral Scierosis
far advanced
He
is buried in
Mrs Jean Krogman
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- This page is Copyright of the Internet Movie Database
1990-1996 --- unless stated otherwise in the source. -- see
www.imdb.com/ for more information --
page created on:
http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?Rader%2C%20Jack -->
I
have no idea who this Rader is, do you claim him as your famous cousin ? Let me know
where he fits, Jim Rader
title of movie or show date type part
Signs
and Wonders" (1995) TV
Series LAPD Detective
Outbreak
(1995) .... Police Chief Fowler
Road
Killers, The (1994) .... Wilcox
Scout,
The (1994) .... Mr.
Lacy
Honor
Thy Mother (1992) (TV)
Aftermath:
A Test of Love (1991) (TV) ....
Skip Koslowsky
Fire!
Trapped on the 37th Floor (1991)
(TV) .... Lloyd
Big
One: The Great
Everybody's
Baby: The Rescue of Jessica McClure (1989) (TV)
Manhunt:
Search for the Night Stalker (1989)
(TV)... Capt. R. Grimm
Blob,
The (1988) .... Col. Hargis
Braddock:
Missing in Action III (1988) .... Littlejohn
David
(1988)
(TV) .... Dick Hafdahl
Nutcracker:
Money, Madness & Murder" (1987)
(mini)TV Series
Penitentiary
III (1987) .... Fred
Deliberate
Stranger, The (1986)
(TV)
Journey
of Natty Gann, The (1985) .... Employment
Agent
Wild
Horses (1985)
(TV) .... Dick Post
Fatal
Vision (1984)
(TV) .... Provost Marshal
Flight
90: Disaster on the
When
She Says No (1984)
(TV) .... Al Strangis
Choice,
The (1981)
(TV) .... Elaine's Husband
Hard
Country (1981) .... Plant
Foreman
Diary
of a Teenage Hitchhiker (1979)
(TV) .... Sean Burke
Gray
Lady Down (1978) .... Harkness
Alexander:
The Other Side of Dawn (1977)
(TV)
Black
Sunday (1977) .... Pearson
Trial
of Lee Harvey Oswald, The (1977) (TV)
Edge, The (1967)
Who claims this Jack Rader for their family tree ?
I found the below foreign language on the World Wide Web. I could not read it but it came up because it contained “rader”
att de sprids
I ursprungligt skick.
I sent the following EMAIL to the page in question
I don't read the above ??? German ????? but I am researching Rader families
The
response was a suprise to me :
From: Magnus Franzen
<magnus@magnus.se>
To: "'James L. Rader'"
<rader@calweb.com>
Subject: SV: Rader ?
Date:
It is swedish. "Rader" is the swedish word for lines.
To: "James L. Rader"
<rader@calweb.com>
From: Robert Stubenrauch
<rstubenr@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at>
>> >>"Vier
Reder am Dach sind fr
die meisten Autos zuviel"
>Could you please tell me if the "Vier Reder means by wheel
I guess in
that case "Reder" is short for "Fahrreder" what means=
bicycles.
It
says that 4 bikes on a car are too much.
Robert
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Re: Rotter surname
From: Mark Rotter <markr@global.co.za>
References:
1
Hi James,
I'm sorry but I only did a bit of research into my
family tree and that was in 1988 when I toured around in
When I was in
I also know that I have an uncle (once/twice
removed?) in
should be no Jewish ancestry in
the "pure" German race.)
I believe (and this may be totally wrong) that one
of the Rotter's from that family tree moved to
If you really want his address then I will make and
effort to look for it, but having just recently married and being engaged quite
seriously at my church as well as at the Bible College and in business I find
myself already slightly overextended :) so please have mercy when you
send queries on to me :) :) :)
Just for interest sake ... on my Grandfather's side
of the family (Rotter) ... his Father was married to
a lady called "Pauluci de la Roncoli"
(I don't know the correct spelling.) and she was a
descendant (by eldest son ... except
for her of course) of the "Kaiser"
/ King of
God's richest blessings !!!
Yours in Christ markr
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Carol Buchanan Susnick
The
friendly people at
Rufus
J. Bruner was there with 1,000s of family group sheets. He is the third generation to carry on this
work.
Rufus J. Bruner
Other
contacts from the reunion are:
Emanuel
& Barbara Rader W.
Terrill Rader
Rt.
#3 Box 346C
To:
"James L. Rader" <rader@calweb.com>
From:
Ed Rider <erider34@nr.infi.net>
Subject:
Re: Rader/Roeder/Ritter ancestry
Dear
Jim,
Thanks
for your response.
Previous
researchers of my Rider ancestors have linked my GGGGGgrandfather
Christopher
Rider of Rowan and
then on to Adam of
do
with several circumstantial facts;
1.
Henry Rider/Rader's name was actually John Henry Rider/Rader. Adam had
two
sons (Samuel and John) who some believed were killed by indians.
Those
researchers believe that the John of Augusta County and Henry of Rowan
County
were one in the same.
2.
Henry lived beside a Charles Robinson who was a former neighbor of and
leased land to Adam Rader of
Henry's
wife, Elizabeth, was the daughter of Charles Robinson.
3.
Henry was aparantly close friends with a Nicholas
Fry, another former
neighbor of Adam Rader.
While
I do believe that Christopher was certainly related to Henry, I'm not
so
sure they were father and son. The reason for my doubts involves a recent
find I made of a 1760 tax list that includes Christopher and not Henry. I
find it very strange that Christopher would have been living alone on his
own
and not near his father at such a young age. The first record I have
found of John Henry Rider/Rader was a document wherein he was given a bounty
for
the ears of a predatory cat in 1765.
The
bottom line here is that I am seeking additional evidence of the
parentage of Christopher.
The
book that I bought from you confirmed many of my findings. Much of the
information I had already learned from books by Cecile Rhodes Cannon and Dr.
Bill
Rader.
I
have not yet published my findings as I have a great deal of additional
research to do. However, I just started publishing a quarterly newsletter. I
will send you a copy. I would like to have a copy of your newsletter. My
address is;
Ed
Rider
Thanks.
Ed
At
>Ed
Rider wrote:
>>
>>
Dear Jim,
>>
>>
Thanks for your offer to help. Please look in your database and tell me if
>>
you have any Christopher (Christofel
or Stoffel) Rader/Rider/Roder
born
>>
anywhere from 1700-1720. Thanks for your help.
>>
>>
Ed Rider
>>
>>
ps - If you haven't already found it, I have a web
page at
>>
http://www.infi.net~erider34xx
>
>I'm
not sure where to start:
>1. I have not been able to make the tie you
show between the Henry
(father of Adam, William, Conrad, Catherine Smith) of Catawba
Co., NC and the bunch in Pennsylvania/Virginia. You will see what I have on the
>
>2.
Are you looking for Christopher in NC or just any Christopher
>Christoph - my Volume #5 page -90 Streithoff,
>Christopher
- my Volume #5 page-101 Born circa 1850 in KY
>
>3.
Have you published any of your Rader work.,I
would like to purchase a copy !
>
>4.
I notice you purchased Volume 2 of my work in April. Does it help, any feedback
?
> I am working toward a more complete work to
be published next year.
Hopefully
I can >actually
have an editor on this work.
>
>Thanks
>Jim
Rader >(916) 366-6833
>--
>=====
boilerplate signature file ============
> this is added to my mail in case
I forget to tell you about my Rader work
>
>please
visit my home page at
http://www.rader.org
>
>If
you havn't received a sample newsletter from me yet.
> Please send me your snail mail address so I
can mail you one !
>
>If
you want help finding your Rader ancestors please give me as much detail
as
you know. I need, at least
, a name with a date and place where they were. If you can give me an unusual name or a maiden name that
really helps.
>
>Thank
you very much for tolerating this canned text !
Ø
Jim Rader -
Ø
>
Eddie Rider publishes volume 1, Issue 1 of the
“Rider Family Chronicles”
The
first issue of his newsletter includes a reunion announcement for
six miles west of Dahlonega
This will be the 16th successive
reunion. Bring a covered dish if you can
and your Rider memorabilia. They also need volunteers to help with their
1997 reunion
These Riders descend from
Henry Roder , Catawaba Co, NC
internet home page http://www.infi.net/~erider34
QUERIES
Query 1:
I have just received a
wonderful break through in my search and it’s all because of an article you
published in the Greene County, TN “Pioneer”, Nov 1995, Vol. #2 page 98.
My
great grandfather, William Date Hudson, was located residing with a John and
Nancy Day in 1870 Greene Co., TN. He was
12 years old at the time and no matter where I looked to find out why, I was
hitting stone walls.
Then
I discovered your article, in which you talk about a John Rader who passed away
leaving some land in dispute. In the
dispute, his children are named, one of which was a Sophia Rader who was
married to a Leander W. Hudson ! Nancy Day’s maiden name was Rader.
Please
send me any info. you may have on Sophia and Leander
and a contact of who else may have information.
I am really stuck right now and need any assistance you can provide.
Judy Sue
Thompson -
Query 2:
I am writing to inquire if
your database includes information concerning the Peter Roeder family of
Jackson Co., IA. I would gladly exchange
information.
Peter
Roeder married Katherine Gousche (Gosche,
Goscha) in
Their
children, all born in Perry township were:
Theodor (Frank),
Margaret, Peter John, John, Nicholas, Michael, Phillip, Maria, Mary, John
Peter, Frank Michael, John Theodor, and Katherine.
Sheryl Hays -
Query 3:
My great-grandfather was
Isaac Rader (son of George) of Clarion Co., Redbank township, PA. George
was an early pioneer of New Bethlehem or Redbank
Twp. George was married to Susanna Space ? and they had 5 children (1850 PA Census) George was born about 1817 and died around
1859. She died in 1851. At least four children were left as orphans
and according to Clarion Co. Orphans Court records Issac
was placed in custody of Allen Space.
The Space family lived next door to George Rader in the 1850
census. Isaac’s sister Catharine (born
in 1842) married William Shindeldecker in 1857. Isaac’s other sibs were Jacob, Sarah, and
Joseph.
In the early ‘60s Ike Rader left home and joined
the Army for Civil War duty. He ended up
down in TN when the war was over and lived in Blount Co., and Knox Co. His Civil War records indicate he was married
twice.
He married Mary Jane Hill
and they had a rathher large family. Oodles of descendants here
Ike did return in the 1880’s
to Clarion Co., PA to reclaim his portion of his father’s estate. Court documents show there was nothing left
I don’t have much more about
George Rader and Family and would appreciate knowing more.
Judy Jenkins -
Query 4:
William and Nancy wrote: Greetings Jim,
I just visited your web
site. Thanks for the site and all the work you have put into it. I would like
to receive a sample copy of the "Rader Ramblings". Also I will share
with you my very little known info on our RADER ancestor.
Ancestor's name: Maryann(e)
Rader, b. 10, Nov., 1847, Germantown, Ohio, d. 1928 in Mich,
OH,or NY.
Spouse: Thomas Henry (or
Henry Thomas) TALL, b.21, Feb.,1846,PA., d.20, Aug.,
1925 in Mi.,Oh,or Ny. He
fought in the Civil War.
In the 1910 Mi. Census we do
find them in the Mason, Oscoda, Mecosta, Monroe Co. records in Ludington, Mi.,and learn that Mary's father was b. in
The other known son of Mary
and Henry is :
ORLEIGH TAll b.1, Dec.,1873,
He m.
Center, Mi. He was adopted in 1918 by William Leroy Coan (originally
born Coones) and Virda (Harris). He m.Geraldine
Ford Mead, whose parents
were James Henry Mead and Mary Amanda Sawyer. I have much more
info and dates
for the Mead And Sawyer families if you want it. SAWYER line goes back to 1600's connecting to
WILLIAM CLYDE b.20,Sept.,1949,
Ronald David b.3,Feb.,1953,
children of Tamara; Caden Coan
If you want more info on
dates/places of current persons, I will give
them to you .I'm afraid I have already given you far more
info than you would like? If so my
apologies!!!! I am no genealogy expert : Thank you and
kindest regards,
Nancy Coan, <
Billnan@concentric.net >
1266 Cavanagh
S.E.,
My response:
Have you
corresponded with your cousin Carolyn Weidner,
she supplied:
Jacob Rader
born 1824 died 1888 Madison Co., IL
married Margarite Bowman 9 April
1846 Allen Co., OH
she died
children Joseph (1845), Susan (1846), George (
(1848)
John
(1850)
Mary Ann
Rader born Allen Co., OH died Amber Twp, Madison Co., MI
was married to Henry Thomas Tall
her brother George married Celia Tall !!!
This is all form my Volume IV page 117 (just one
page) I did not retype it all
here Thanks for the detail and it was
not too much
Jim Rader - editor
Query 5:
MyersIII@aol.com wrote: Jim -- I am Paul Charles Raeder, Born
GEDCOM if you
like. Are any of these Raeders in your database?
Can I have a
sample newsletter?
Paul Charles
Raeder -
Query 6:
Shirley Musick wrote:
My Father's name is Basil
Rader. He is from
He married Barbara Patton (Lindstrom). Do you have
any other clues from
there?
Ruby's grandparents name are
Ruby O., and Jake Rader, their children were Timothy Rader, Basil Rader, Royce
and Theodore, daughters Nina Lucille and Susan Rader.
Frank Harris, husband of Ruby E. Harris (Rader) Where did Jack's children live
?
From Frank Harris, husband of Ruby E. Rader-Harris,
Jake lives in
Phx., AR. Grandparents born in
Frank HarrisThis is what I
think I understand from the above:
Descendants of Jake Rader
1. Jake1 Rader was born in
Timothy Rader was born in MI
Basil Rader was born in
He married Barbara Patton Lindstrom.
He resides in
Royce Rader, Theodore Rader,
Nina Lucile Rader , Susan Rader
Shirly Musick shirleym@bmi.net
Query 7:
From: vndychip@ix.netcom.com (Randy King )
I was just fooling around
this afternoon and did a yahoo search for
Rader and was surprised to see some come up! I
thought I would tell you
a little (and a little is all
I know) about the Raders in my family.
My grandfather was Alton
Leon Rader and he had a brother named Dezie Rader and
I think they may have been from
grandfather worked for Tastee Bread in
my grandmother raised horses
and rented them out for birthday parties,
etc. in the early 1950's.
I am Beverly Denise Rader
King (b.
Stuart and therefore all of us are double cousins! Dezie and Annie Mae
had 4 children, Stuart Rader
(deceased), Howard Rader (
Branham (
I do not know much about the Rader side of my
family.
Beverly King -
Query 8
Peter Rader <pjrader@warwick.net>
My father died when I was 3
- and I do not have a lot of detail. Here is what I DO know about him?
Name Peter Joseph Rader Born Around 1900
In
He had a brother. Do not know his name They were orphaned early in their lives and lived with an
aunt in
He died in 1939 Residence Floral Park,
Buried
St. Boniface Church,
(They subsequently had a
fire that destroyed the church records)
He married Edna
Joan O'Connor around 1935
(2 Sons) Peter (me)
My Mother
Edna Joan O'Connor Born
Peter J. Rader
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