Rader Ramblings
James Lee Rader -- 2633 Gilbert Way -- Rancho Cordova, CA 95670-3513
http://pages.prodigy.com/CA/raderjim/raderjim.html
20th Issue Spring 1996
Phillip Hinkel Rader’s church from Morgan, Missouri page 1
Phillip Hinkle Rader by Grayford Rader Lowrance page 2
Where did our immigrant Raders come from ? page 3
Records left by Herbert Rader of Germantown page 4
The Rader/Reeder/Harkaraders lived in Wythe County VA page 6
Evidence - Original documents page 14
Queries page 17
Phillip Hinkel Rader’s "Rader Lutheran church"
from Morgan, Missouri
Thanks to Ed Fickie of Austin TX
for the following articles from The Shepherd of the Hills Gazette
1901 Church to Grace Inspiration Point
Come next spring, Shepherd of the Hills will have a new addition to Inspiration Point. A 1901 Lutheran Church will be rebuilt during the winter to stand atop the second highest spot in Missouri.
Inspiration Point is the place where Harold Bell Wright pitched his tent, and began compiling notes for his book "The Shepherd of the Hills." He fell in love with the backwoods people and the beautiful scenery, so much so that he returned to this very spot for the next six summers.
Before visiting the Ozarks, Wright had been the minister of the First Christian Church in Pittsburg, Kansas. Since he was so widely known, he was asked to preach in churches all across Missouri. (cont. page 2)
"Harkerader vs Reeder"
The Raders, Reeders and the Harkaraders lived in Wythe County Virginia in the late 18th century. 200 years ago these people bought and sold real estate, was their experience different form ours. How did they actually sell a piece of land ? Did they sell their land before moving onto the frontier ? Continued on page 5
Abstracts of Court Orders
of Wythe Co., VA 1790-1810
Published by Mary B. Kegley
available for $ 27 at PO Box 134, Wytheville, VA 24382Those of you who have purchased any of her over 13 books on Southwest Virginia know of her work. She has recently focused on the real jewel of source documents. Her previous work has been termed as solid gold by those of us who are looking for traces of our ancestors in her part of Virginia. If they were gold then, this book is diamonds !
The 1901 Lutheran church that will stand atop Inspiration Point is similar to some of those where Wright once ministered. This particular church was built in Morgan, Missouri, and cost approximately $7,500 to dismantle.
The framework, woodwork, and trim were saved, along with the doors, windows, bell tower, pews, and pulpit. The rest of the church will be rebuilt by using over 100 pictures that were taken before the dismantling on August 2, 1989.
The former congregation of the little church is tickled to death to see their previous place of worship move to Branson, Missouri. In fact even though they have all relocated, they haven’t lost touch with each other. Every year, on the second weekend in July, they hold a reunion to catch up on all that has happened in the past year.
But just because the church has relocated dosn’t mean that the reunions have to come to a halt. Shepherd of the Hills is planning to keep up the tradition by continuing the get-togethers on Inspiration Point.
Phillip Hinkle Rader
by Grayford Rader Lowrance
His Grandson
Phillip Hinkel Rader was born Ja. 28, 1858 in Greene Co, TN., near the St. James community about ten miles southwest of Greeneville. He died in Jan of Feb of 1935. He was married Sept. 14, 1884 to Mariah Elizabeth Cafey, born Dec. 16, 1865 in Webster Co., MO, and died Dec 18, 1951. Both are buried in the Morgan Trinity Lutheran Church Cemetery. A church which both helped establish, and were charter members.
My records indicate (page 179 volume III)
Philip Henkel Rader
born 28 Jan 1858
Cocke or Greene co, TN
died 5 Mar 1935
Springfield, Greene Co., MO
married 14 Sep 1884 to
Miriah Elizabeth Caffey
born - 16 Dec 1865 Webster Co, MO
died 18 Dec 1950 or 1951
Springfield, Greene Co., MO
Phillip came to Mo. With his family when he was about 13 years of age. Alledgelly the group of about sixty East Tenn immigrants made up mostly of Raders, Freshours, and Renners, rode the Frisco from St. Louis to the end of the line at Old Brush Creek Station between Lwbanon and Phillipsburg, arriving on/about March 20, 1871. The were supposedly met by Uncle Billy Martin with wagons to haul the group and their earthly goods to their destination. It is said that earlier immigrants of these families considered lands near what is now the Bear Thicket Community. But they decided against settling in this area because of the "sink hole" just across the road, east of the Bear Thicket Church. They traveled south from the Brush Creek Station to the upper reaches of the Osage Fork of the Gasconade River to lands which had been obtained by the earlier settlers, about 10 miles southeast of Conway, Mo.
Philip owned the first store in what is known today as Radertown, where the group settled, but later sold it. In 1896 he moved his family across the river into Laclede Co., about 10 miles due east of Conway, MO having obtained land there. As he had been a merchant, and liking it, he opened a store and Post office, naming the Post Office "Morgan" after his second son, Floyd Morgan Rader’s middle name. A son, which he and Miriah wanted very much to become a minister, which was never realized because Floyd never did feel a sense of calling to this vocation.
Phillip and his family, along with the Freshours, and the Jonathan Peters family established the Morgan Trinity Lutheran Church not too long after moving to this area. They met for worship over Phillip’s store until they were able to erect a building in 1901
It was in this church that my mother, Evia, Phillip an Mirah’s third child, learned to play the old time pump organ without anyone teaching her. She was given the task of cleaning the church, but was not allowed to loiter in the building. So she would "accidently" leave a window unlocked, returning later to play to her heart’s content. She did this until she was able to fill in at worship services when no one else was available.
It is said that the farm which Phillip had bought was a rocky hillside. But he kept his children busy picking up rocks until there were none left. And even today few rocks can be found on this place owned by Ralph and Helen Indermuehle Dennis.
After Philip and Mariah reared their children, they retired to Springfield, MO, where some of the children had moved after beginning their own families.
(the article goes on to detail their children’s statistics)
Where did our immigrant Raders come from
?In the Case of Gaspar Rötter (Casper Rader) he associated with the Umbergers (Humberger) family. He served in the Militia during the Revolutionary war with Henry Umberger. When he moved to Virginia Henry went with him ! Those researching the Umberger family have the following facts about their ancestors:
The original Umberger family came from Flums of St. Gallen, Switzerland
Conrad Umberger married Elisabeth Kern
Conrad Wilhelm married Barbr Holdimann
in 1631 (came from Safenwil, Canton Aargau)
Adam Steyder married Elesbath Haberling
in 1639 (from Affoltern, Canton Zurich)
Jacob Weidler married Barbara Hofstetter
in 1644 (from Canton Zurich)
The above generation migrated to the Pfalz (Germany) 1650-1670
Rudi Umberger born about 1645 died about 1699 married in 1669
Elisbeth Wilhelm born 1647 died 1691
Hans Steyger born 1657 and died 1727 married 1681
Elisabeth Weidler born 1646, died 1730
The above generation born in Switzerland, married and died in Kraichgau
(towns of Reihn and Kirchardt) Germany
Hans Heinrich Umberger born Dec. 3, 1688 died 1787 married 24 Mar 1713
Juliana Steyger born 24 Sep 1685 Children:
Maria Elisabeth born Nov 1713 died in infancy
Hans Leonardt born 2 Apr 1715
married Mrs Barbara Borst 15 Apr 1742
Hans Michael born 21 May 1717
married Anna Maria Rammler 18 Sep 1742
Juliana born 8 Mar 1719
married John Phil Holinger 2 Feb 1744
Johannes born 30 Nov 1721 married Anna Maria
Ann Elisabeth born 16 Jul 1724
Anna Katharina born 14 May 1729
married John Becker 10 Jan 1751
The Umbergers came to Philadelphia on the ship Hope in 1733 and settled in what became Lebanon County. PA.
Michael had 10 children, 3 sons who went to Wythe Co. along with 1 son of Leonards - (Henry). Michael’s son Philip, John, and Henry b. Dec 28, 1752 d. 1837 married Anne Margaret Bauer and later Catherine Neff.
"Big" Henry, as Michael’s son is called, had 6 children and possibly another 2 depending on whose research you follow.
1. Umbergers (originally came from Flums of St. Gallen, Switzerland) came from Kraichgau (towns of Reihn and Kirchardt) Germany and settled in Lebanon County. PA
2. Etters came from Kirchenthurnen, Canton Bern, Switzerland and settled in Lebanon Twp, PA
The common tie is in Lebanon Pennsylvania
not in Europe !
More from the box of records left by Herbert Rader of Germantown
(continued from page 14 of 19th issue
C.W. Unger
RARE BOOKS, AUTOGRAPHS, PRINTS, ETC.
POTTSVILLE, PA. Sept . 8, 1939 .
Mr. Herbert Rader,
150 East Walnut Lane,
Phila., Pa.
Dear Mr. Rader:
I received the photostat you 90 kindly sent me in due time and since then have made a rough translation of the material therein. I purposely did not compare it with your translation until I had mine made 80 as not to be influenced in any way. I wish to say that yours proved to be surprisingly good.
On page 7 "vor wegen dem dag" I have made "daily laborers" although I admit this is far from literal. I have never before seen this particular idiom in use. The word "einweien" which puzzled you, used at two different places, I am sure is "dedication" and the amounts following it refer to the amounts of monies collected at the dedication of the church, At the time of writing I have not this date before me but it is given in the early church book of baptisms etc. and I venture to say will compare to the dates given in the present booklet.
I have made "stuben ofen", "heating stove" because the intention is to heat the school room. Stoves or ovens at that time and place were pretty well confined to cooking stoves and the writer, no doubt, wishes to make a distinction and calls the stove in the school house used for heating purposes only a "stuben ofen".
I do not think there is anything further calling for explanation the few changes in names are as follows:
All Brinkly’s to Brickly
Achig to Achy
Filbert to Hilbert
Flug? to Ilig
Other differences are merely of a minor nature. I am enclosing a rough copy of my translation. I have some more Röder data that I ran across but cannot lay my hands on at this minute. I will send it to you later. I hope to hear from you at your convenience, and am,
Sincerely yours,
C. W. Unger.
A letter which accompanied the card shown on page 13 and 14
The Historical Society of Schuylkill County
Pottsville, Pennsylvania
Pottsville, Pa., Aug. 21, 1939
Mr Herbert Rader
150 East Walnut Lane
Gtwn., Phila., Pa
Dear Mr. Rader
I am in receipt of your favor of the 12th inst., and was glad to hear that we may soon expect the photostat copy of the little Summer Hill book. I consider this booklet one of the most important finds that could have been made relating to the history of the southern part of our county.
I am enclosing you a card with some Röder baptisms and a burial from the Schwartzwald, Exeter Twp., Berks Co., church records.
I hope that you will seriously consider the matter of giving us a history of the Summer Hill church to be read before the Historical Society some time this coming winter.
If I can be of any further help to you in compiling the Rader genealogy at any time please command me.
Yours sincerely,
C.W. Unger.
"Harkerader vs Reeder"
The Rader/Reeder/Harkaraders lived in Wythe County Virginia in the late 18th century. 200 years ago these people bought and sold real estate, was their experience different form ours. How did they actually sell a piece of land ? Did they sell their land before moving onto the frontier ?
Mary Kegley has provided us many details over the years. Those of you who have purchased any of her over 13 books on Southwest Virginia know of her work. She has recently focused on the real jewel of source documents. Her previous work has been termed as solid gold by those of us who are looking for traces of our ancestors in her part of Virginia. If they were gold then, as she says, the following is diamonds !
You are aware of Chancery Court records, in the west these courts are called Civil Court. May of us have looked at summaries of those cases to find a mention of your ancestors. She has gone further, she has gone into the actual court records themselves. Not case indexes or summaries. The entire case.
In boxes in the basement of many court houses are bundles of papers. Those bundles are made up of ledger sized pieces of paper. The pages are first folded in half which creates a legal sized paper consisting of 4 surfaces. After they have been written they are then folded in thirds which makes a 8 inch by 5 inch packet. All of the notes, dispositions, surveys and judgements for one case are placed together and a ribbon tied around them. On the outside of each case is the name of the case like "Harkerader vs Reeder"
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Continued from issue # 15 Winter 1994-95
They subpoena Major Reeder June 1827
Virginia
At roles held in the clerk's office of the superior court of chancery holden at Wythe; on the 4 th day of June 1827:
Jacob Harkeraders, against
Majors Reeder, Samuel Williams John M Preton the heirs of Robert Morris, dec'd Robert Davis and Hannah his wife, and John Brown
The defendant Majors Reeder, not having entered his appearance and given security according to the act of assembly and the rules of this court: & it appearing from satisfactory evidence that he is not an inhabitant of this commonwealth; on the motion of the plaintiff by his council; it is ordered that the said defendant appear here on the first day of the next term. and answer the bill of the plaintiff; and that a copy of this order be forthwith inserted in some Newspaper published in this commonwealth, for two months successively, and posted at the front door of the Court House of Wythe County.
A Copy Teste.
Withe county to wit:
This day personally appeared before me J L Lindenberger Justice of the Piece for Wythe county John G. Ustick and made oath that he has published the annexed notice in his paper the "Wythe Gazette" for two months swapping given under my hand this 17 th day of October 1827
The Deposition of Robert Davis
October 1827What did Davis know about it ?
This deposition is accepted to an amount the interest g the witness This 15th October 1827
Alexander Smyth council for plaintiff
Wythe County Virginia To hereto
Pursuant to a commission to us directed we have this day proceeded to take the Deposition of Robert Davis at the house of George W Davis agreeable to notice to be read as evidence in a suit defending in Superior Court of Chancery held at Wythe Courthouse, wherein Jacob Heirkrarder is plaintiff and Samuel Williams and John M Preston &al Defts - This deposant after being Sworn upon the Holy evangelut of Almighty God disposeth and Saith, that his wife and Major Reeder held a Tract of Land in which they had Equal interest, and Reader Sold his interest in Said land to Said Jacob Harkrader and Harkrader appeared desire one to have a Certan end of Said Survey, and this Defendant give him that part that he made choice of and it is the understanding of this Depondant that ?? Harkrader was Satisffest and this Deposant further saith that they did not finish the division of said Land but Harkrader is in Possesion of the part that he made choice of, and Said Lance is yet to be equally devided between them and further this deposant saith not
Robert Davis
They advertise in the paper and suponea again November 1827
Virginia
At roles held in the clerk's office in the Superior court of Chancery holden at Wythe courthouse for the district of Wythe, on the 5th day of November 1827:
Jacob Harkrader Plt.
against
Majirs Reeder, Samuel Williams, John M. Preston the heirs of Robert Morris decd Robert Davis and Hannah his wife, and John Brown,
The defendants, the heirs of Robert Morris decd. not having entered their appearance and given security acording to the act of Assembly, and the rules of this court; and it apare not inhabitants of this commonwealth on the motion of the plaintiff by his counsel; it is ordered, that the said defendants appear here on the first day of next term and answer the bill of the Plaintiff, and that a copy of this order be forthwith inserted in som Newspaper published in this commonwealth for two months successively, and posted at the front door of the court-house of Wythe county.
J. E. Brown Wythe Courts, to wit
Major Reeder is deposed in Washington Co., VA - May 1828
This ecoy personally appeared before me.
Handing a justice of the peace for Wythe County John G Ustick
and made oath that he has published the anneseed notice in his paper thw "Wythe Gazette" given under my hand this 28 th day of May 1828
LSFandenz
Major Reeder is deposed in Washington Co., VA
To the honorable John Brown Judge of the Superior court of Chancery holden at Wythe Court house the separate answer of Major Reeder to the bill of complaint of Jacob Harkrader exhibited in said court against this respondent, Samuel Williams and John M. Preston, this respondent saying the usual exception for answer to said Bill:
sayeth It is true he received a letter from the complainant proposing to purchase of him his interest in the land described in complainant bill. the complainant in his said letter proposed to give him Six Hundred dollars in Tennessee money, or Five hundred dollars in good money to wit for hundred in silver and one hundred in North Carolina Bank notes.
This respondent always believed his interest in said land was worth more than the price offered by the complainant but having removed to the state of Tennessee a considerable distance from the land and being much in want of money, he in his letter in reply to the complaint agreed to take the last offer to wit for hundred dollars in silver and one hundred in North Carolina bank paper, but he understood the proposition to be that the whole amount was to be paid down, his impression on this subject will be seen by reference to his letter of 23 June 1823 to the Complainant which is filed among the papers of this cause.
It was conditioned in said letter that this respondent or his brother in law David Williams who then lived near him should come on and make the title and receive the purchase money. This respondent finding that neither himself or David Williams could come on, he wrote to his father in law Samuel Williams who resided in the County of Wythe, advising him of the complainants proposition to give him Six hundred dollars in Tennessee money or five hundred in good money in which letter he authorized the said Samuel Williams to make a sale of the said land to the complainant on such terms as the said Samuel might think proper.
Whereupon the said Samuel & the complainant agree for the land at the price of Six hundred dollars on a credit except the sum of $ 130 which he understood was paid at the date of the contract. This respondent insists that his mouty of said land would not have taken that sum if he had remained in the county, he was once offered one thousand dollars for it,
He denies that the complainant can be effected by any prior claim to the land or that he is in any danger of being disturbed in the enjoyment of the quantity sold him. This respondent has always been ready & still ready to comply with the contract made with the complainant by defendant Samuel Williams, it is a contract which he recognized and which he acknowledges to be binding on him, and so soon as the complainant will have a proper survey & division made which he is bound by the contract to have done, this respondent will make him a title in fee simple with general warranty for the same.
This respondent denies all fraud or participation in fraud against the complainant. He claims the contract as made between the complainant and said Williams, This respondent having answered as much of the complainants bill as he is advised in material for him to answer prays to be hence discussed with his costs.
Futton for respondent
State of Virginia
Washington County to wit
This day Major Reeder personally appeared before the undersigned a Justice of the peace for said County and made oath that the facts contained in the foregoing answer so far as relates to his own actings and doings are true and so far as relates to the actings and doings of others he believes to be true.
Given under my hand & seal this
13th day of Oct 1828 Robert Campbell
Williams wants another survey March 1839
Wythe County to wit Robert Giboney came before mee a Justice of the peace for the county of Wythe ana mraaeO ask that he deliver a true coppy of the within note this 31 day of March 1839
John Huller
Samuel Williams
-- note Jacob Harkerder Excecuted R S Gibbons for Isam Harmon
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Mr Jacob Harkrider
Take notice that on the 30 th of this month I will proceed to have an order of survey executed in directed in the cause in which you are plaintiff and Majors Reeder and myself and others are defendants - defending in the Superior Court of Chancery holden at Wythe Court house
March 10th 1829 Yours H Samuel Williams
The court orders the survey
Virginia
At a Superior Court of Chancery held at Wythe Courthouse for the District of Wythe on Tuesday May 26 th 1829
Jacob Harkrader . . Pl
against
Majors Reeder fe . . . . Deft
On the motion of the Defendants by their councsel It is ordered that the report of the surveyor made in this case in pursuance of an order entered therein at the last term be recommitted to the said surveyor to be by him ammended and corrected
a copy teste J E Brown
John T. Brown is the next wittness May 1829
?? Samuel Williams, Majors Reeder, & John M. Retta.
Gentlemen; On tomorrow, in the courthouse of Wythe county, I will take the deposition of John T. Brown (son gthibad ) and others to be had as witness in a said in chancery wherein I am complaintant and you and others are defendants, defending in the superior court and chancery holder at Wythe courthouse
Jacob Harkrader 25 May 1829
The following deposition was taken sworn to subscribed before me at the time & place mentioned in the caption the Pet and Deft williams being present
JR Miller
Time engaged in taking this deposition one hour and a half
In pursuance of notice I have proceeded in the court house of Wythe County this 26 th day of May 1829 to take the following depositions on behalf of Jacob Harkarader to be read as evidence in a suit defending in the Superior Court of Chancery holden at the Wythe CourtHouse wherein the said Harkarader is Clt and Samuel Williams and others Defts.
John Brown (bob) of lawful age being first duly sworn deposeth saith. That the Deft. Williams came to the house of the deponent and offered to buy a piece of land which is in dispute between the said Deft. and Plaintiff for which he offered the deponent one hundred & Fifty pounds of Iron but the Deponent refused to let him have the land and would not at this time take less than three or four dollars per acre. The Deft Williams seemed very anxious to get the land but the deponent refused to give up his claim for any sum unless Baumgardner Heakele were willing - The Deft Williams told the Deponent that he and Harkrader were only fighting for the costs and that if he could get the land he would throw all the costs on Harkrader - The deponent the asked him if he would take upon himself to make the deponent a good title to the whole of the land provided the deponent would relinquish his claim to the part which was in dispute - he the dept. replied that he would not - The Deft Williams also said (as this deponent thinks), that cove John Brown ought to have the land meaning the piece of land in despute between the said deft. and the clt Harkarader -
Quest by the counsel for the Complaintant Have you purchased the land which is in controversy between Jacob Harkarader on the one part and Samuel Williams & others on the other or a part of it from Jacob Harkarader ?
Answer I did so. but Harkarader refused to make me a sufficient title for the same, but said if he gained the land I should have it.
Question Is it a part y that piece of land that Mr Williams wanted to purchase your claim to ?
Ans It is the piece which Harkarader refused to bind himself to make a title for that Williams wanted to purchase
Q Have you any other claim to that piece except what you get from Harkarader
Answer I have not - another part of the same tract I purchased from Davis - I bought three hundred acres from Harkarader but he refused to make me a title for the part which is in dispute.
Q What did you understand Mary Williams wanted to do with the piece of land in dispute if you sold him your claim?
Answer I understood he intended to let cove John Brown have it.
Q Did you hear any conversation between Mary Williams & Cove John Brown ? If so please state it.
Answer Nothing of any consequences except what I have stated.
Q Did Mary Williams tell you he had been trying to get the land in dispute from Cove John Brown & what did he say was cove Johns answer?
Answer He told me he had tried to buy the said land from Cove John Brown who refused to let him have the land for less than one hundred dollars unless he Brown could get it again - He further stated that Brown said if he Williams could get the land from me no matter how little he gave for it he Brown would be satisfied providing he could get the land.
Q Did Mr Williams endeavor to get Cove John Browns right to make to you with intention to get you to convey both to Cove John Brown
answer He did not mention any thing about the right
Question by defendant
Have you purchased from Jacob Harkrider all the land which he purchased from Saml Williamsagent for Majors Reeder, and if so, at what price?
Answer I did for which I am to pay him eight hundred dollars - but he refused to warrant the piece in dispute.
Question by @ame, were you along when the survey was made in the cause, and if so, will you state whether in running the survey of 376 acres after arriving at two white oaks station if we found the two next corners or any marked line trees on the line from H. to I
Answer we saw none, we searched diligently both for the line from H to I and also for the corner, at the whole is in woods, but we could find no marked tree. after making this search we went to the corner K which we found and run towards L and found the line plainly marked about Mr parts of the way after which we could find the second day of making surveys
.And the deponet further saith not John Brown
The survey by Adams May 1820
Harkarader vs Survey Reeder & C filed 20 May 1820
Pursuant to an order of the Honorable the superior court of Chancery holden at Wythe court house for the district of Wythe October 25 th 1828 to me directed I have proceeded to survey and lay off the [lands] as directed a description whereof is exhibited in the connected platt, the black lines and letters following represents a survey made in the name of Stephen Reeder containing 376 acres and further explained (to wit),
Beginning at three white oak corner to the land of Samuel Crocket (Station A) and with his lines N76W18 poles to three spanish oaks down near the head of a spring (sta B) S76W90 poles to a pine and white oak at the foot of the big ridge (Sta C) S23W170 poles crossing a road to a double white oak, corner to Crockett and Browns land (Sta D) and with lines of the latter N34W78 poles to a white oak in the gap of a ridge (Sta E) S66W164 poles along the top of a ridge to a white oak (Sta F) N84W116 poles to two white oaks on the side of a hill (Sta G) S9E43 poles to a stake (Sta H) S82W70 poles to four black oak grubs (Sta I) N5W100 poles to two white oaks (Sta J) N75E6 poles to two white oaks near the head of a spring (Sta L) N82E140 poles to three white oaks of them down (Sta M) N46E105 poles to a dead white oak in a field (Sta N) N65E162 poles to three large white oaks in a hollow (Sta O) N30W50 poles to a Locust and white oak (Sta P) S65W30 poles to a red oak & white oak sapling (Sta Q) N5W20 poles to a white oak (Sta R) N75E48 poles to a Red oak Henry Cassells corner (Sta S) S15E46 poles to a spanish oak (Sta T) S79E118 poles crossing a branck to a white oak (Sta U) S51E18 poles to a large white oak (Sta V) and S46E60 poles to Sta A, the beginning
The red dotted lines and letters following represent a survey of 262 acres made in the name of Gasper Rader, 230 specified in the plat and and further explained to wit
Beginning at two white oaks on William Findleys line (sta *) and with the same N25E94 poles to a black oak (station little a) N69E130 poles to a pine tree corner to his pattent land (sta b) N9W84 poles to a red oak & white oak sapling on the side of a ridge (sta c) West 280 poles binding on Stephen Reeders line two white oaks (sta d) S14E67 poles to two white oaks on the top of a ridge corner to Jacob Raders lands (sta e) S2E160 poles with said line to a red oak (Sta f) N77E75 poles to a double white oak on the side of a ridge (Sta g) and S37E30 poles to the beginning - -
Gasper Raders survey includes 20 acres in the bounds of Stephen Reeders survey which is shewn in the annexed platt by the letters I,H,g,m where the black lines intersect the red dotted line (b,c, at c) thence with the dotted line crossing Pollards line at h, to where it intersects the black line at i, thence with the black line crossing said Pollards line at n, to I, the beginning -
The green dotted line and red dotted line and letter k, h, i the black lines and letters K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V, includes 189 acres in the bound of Pollards survey, also which is included in Stephen Reeders survey of 295 acres -----
The black lines and black dotted lines and letters L,M,N,O,P,Q,X, includes 139 acres which is Reeders old survey.
The red lines black lines and letters b,D,E,F,g,W includes 100 acres surveyed in the name of Gasper Rader
The green lines and letters K, w,v,x includes 24 acres surveyed in the name of Stephen Reeder
Cyres Adams Ast Surveyor.Wythe.Co April 1829
In making the foregoing survey I commenced at letter, E, in the survey of 376 acres the other lines having been previously run, the corners at F & G, O were found, the distance on each line being something greater than the distance called for, at ,H, a stake is called for, a marked line was seen leading towards it, from that to I, no line or corner tree was found although diligent search was made and the ground well timbered, we went to a corner shewed at, K, a "fiew" marked trees seen near K, leading towards, I from I, the other corner trees found on the 262 acres survey, Begining at * the line and corner at (a) was found from thence a marked line was seen 13West of the course called for and west of the line (a, b, by tracing the marked trees to a field after passing which no marked trees were seen, about twenty poles after leaving the field and crossing a branch we arrived on the point of a ridge. no corner found or marked trees seen and no such timber as that called for seen, we then went to a fallen down pine on the bank of said branch which the plaintiff said was the corner at, b, about 300 yards from where our distance and course ended, from thence we run the course and distance called for to, c, but could find no marked line or corner tree, although the ground was well timbered and diligent search was made from ,e, to d, no marked line was found although the course was entirely through woods and diligent search was made, a marked corner was shewen at ,d, to which the course and distance nearly brought us from thence the other lines of that survey were found the lines generally longer than calls of the Pattent
Cyres Adams, Asst. Oct 19th 1829
And the Judge Gives his verdict May 1831
Harkrader vs } decree Reeder et al
(on back it says "entered" meaning the judge approved.
This cause came on the 25 th day of May 1831 to be heard on the Bill, answers, exhibits, depositions and exceptions the survey made in the cause and the exceptions thereto and is argued by counsel, on Consideration whereof the court over ruling said Exceptions and being of opinion for reasons set forth in a written opinion which is filed amongst the papers in the cause that the compl't is entitled to relief on account of the older better right of John Brown under the Patent issued to Gasper Reeder for twenty acres of the land included in the boundaries of the land one moiety of which was sold by the defendts to the complt. and the parties in this cause in order to save the expense trying an issue to ascertain the value of the said twenty acres arguing the same to be worth forty dollars and the complt waiving any further relief on account of the alleged interference between the boundaries of said lands bought by him of the Defendts and the land patented to Robert Morris.
It is thereupon adjudged ordered & decreed that the Injunction heretofore awarded in this case so far as relates to the sum of twenty dollars be and the same is hereby perpetuated and that the said injunction as to the residue of the said judgments enjoined so soon as the defendts Major Reeder shall execute to the complt a good & sufficient conveyance in fee simple to the land aforesaid with a relinquishment of his wife's dower thereto be dissolved.
It is further adjudged ordered & decreed that the Complt recover against the defendt his costs about his suit in this behalf expended and that he have leave to offset & retain his said costs out of the said judgments at law.
HARKRADER vs REEDER
WYTHE County, VA 1825-1831

Compiled by James L. Rader - 2633 Gilbert Way - Rancho Cordova, CA (with help of Mary Kegley and Beverly Repass Hoch) May 21, 1995
Evidence submitted in the suit
Land Office Treasury Warrant # 13145 3 Aug 1782
Stephen Reeder assignee of Conrod Reeder
James Wood Esquire, Governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia,
To all to whom these presents shall come, Greeting: That by virtue of a land office Treasury Warrant Number thirteen thousand one hundred and forty five, issued the third day of August one thousand seven hundred and eighty two
there is granted by said Commonwealth, unto Stephen Reeder assignee of Conrod Reeder
A certain Tract or parcel of Land, containg twenty four acres by survey bearing data the unicteonth day of April one thousand seven hundred and ninety, lying and being in the County of Montgomery on the Waters of Cove Creek a branch of Reed Creek and bounded as followeth to wit:
Beginning at a Black and running thence S15E52 poles to two White Oaks on Stephen Reeder's comes near the head of a spring S77W80 poles to a White Oak on a hill side N31W40 poles to a spanish Oak on the side of the bushy mountain, N69E92 poles to the Beginning
with its Appurtenances; to have and to hold the said tract or parcel of land with its Appurtenances, to the said Stephen Reeder and his Heirs for ever.
In Wittness whereof, the said James Wood Esquire, Governor of the said James Wood Esquire, Governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia, hath hereunto set lis Hand, and caused the lesser Seal of said Commonwealth to be affixed at Richmond, on the tenth day of January in the year of our Lord, One thousand Seven Hundred and Ninety nine and of the Commonwealth the twenty third
James Wood
Land Office Treasury Warrant # 10186 22 December 1782
unto Stephen Reeder assignee of Robert Steel who was assei of Jarrey Doak
Stephen Roeder 135 Acres
Montgomery County Recorded and Examined said 24 Sept 1825
Edmund Randolph Esquire, Governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia,
To all to whom these presents shall come, Greeting: That by virtue and jurisdiction of part of a land office Treasury Warrant Number Ten thousand One hundred and eighty Six, issued the twenty Second day of December one thousand seven hundred and eighty two
there is granted by said Commonwealth, unto Stephen Reeder assignee of Robert Steel who was assei of Jarrey Doak
A certain Tract or parcel of Land, containg one hundred and thirty five acres by survey bearing date the twenty fifth day of January one thousand Seven hundred and eighty three lying and being in the County of Montgomery in the Cove on the waters of Reed Creek a Branch of New River and bounded as followeth ?otrict
Beginning at two white oates and black oak in a draft & runneth thence South four degrees East Fifty poles to two white oaks near a Drive North eighty two degrees East one hundred and thirty two poles ?ofoler white oak sapling, near a small branch. North forty six degrees east one hundred poles to a white oak. North Sixty five degrees East one hundred and fifty two poles to three white oaks. North Sixty degrees West fifty poles to a locust and seasoned oak. Thence South Sixty five degrees West Three hundred and fifty poles to the Beginning
with its Appurtenances; to have and to hold the said tract or parcel of land with its Appurtenances, to the said Stephen Reeder and his Heirs for ever.
In Wittness whereof, the said Edmund Randolph Esquire, Governor of the said James Wood Esquire, Governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia, hath hereunto set lis Hand, and caused the lesser Seal of said Commonwealth to be affixed at Richmond, on the twenty eighth day of July in the year of our Lord, One thousand Seven Hundred and Eighty eight and of the Commonwealth the thirteenth
Edm Randolph
Land Office Treasury warrant # 13.200 3 August 1782
filed 26 May 1828 Stephan Reador Entry 113 acres March 22, 1790
1790 March 22
Stephen Reeder ap?? thedeus Cooly ap of James Clarks attourney by virtue of land office Treasury Warrant No. 13.200 and dated the 3 rd of August 1782 enters 113 acres of land adjoining his own land on the South thence joining the lands of Gov Crockett & Gasper Rayder including the land lying between said tracts of land in the Cove on the waters of Cove Creek
A copy from the Entry Book Test Gordon Cloyd sur of
Land Office Treasury warrant # 21,177 4 March 1793
1793 Stephen Reeder asee of Robert Adams assee of William Bonney
March 4 th by virtue of a land office Treasury warrant for 4000 acres No 21,177
and dated the first day of December 1783 enters 183 acres part thereof in the Cove on the waters of Reed creek a branch of New river to join his own land on the east end and south east side also to join the land of Henry Rader and to extend down on both sides the branch that runs through the big ridge for quantity
A copy from record test Cyrus Adams
Land Office Treasury warrant # 433++ 8 May 1794
1794 July 24th Robert Pollard by virtue of a land office Treasury Warrant for 75,000 acres No.433 + ifs the 8th day of May 1794. Enters the Same on the waters of Peek creek Reed creek + Walkers creek to begin at a red oak white oak + four Chestnut trees in the head of a hollow on the east side of a ridge about 1/4 of a mile from the road leading from John Millers to Pattersons in the Cove + thence extending N75E5 miles N30E 1/4 of a mile N55E3 miles N25W2 1/8 miles S80W 2 1/8 miles - - - -
Land Office Treasury warrant # 13.200 3 August 1782
1796 Febr 1st Stephen Reeder assee of Thedius Cooly asee of James Clarks attorney by virtue of a land office Warrant No 13.200 and dated the 3rd of Augst 1782 enters 113 acres of land joining his own land on the south thence joining the lands of Col Crockett & Gasper Reader including the land lying between sd Tracts of lands in the Cove on the waters of the Cove creek
1796 Feby 1st
The last entry was made in the Montgomery Office March 22nd 1790
A copy from the Record tete Robert Adams
Surveys for Steven Reeder 1790 and 1793
Surveyed for Steven Reeder 295 acres of land by virtue of two entries
the first entry of 113 acres was made in the surveyors office of Montgomery County the 22nd day of March 1790 on part of a land office Treasury Warrant No. 13.200 and dated the 3rd of August 1782
The 2nd Entry of 182 acres was made the 4th of March 1793 on part of a land office Treasury Warrant No 21.177 + dated the 1st of December 1783 lying in Wythe County in the Cove and bounded as followeth, to wit;
Beginning at three white oaks corner to the lands of Samuel Crockett + with his lines N71W16 poles to a spanish oak S84W56 to a pine + white oak by the foot of the big ridge S23W140 to a double white oak saplin Gasper Raders corner with his lines N74W70 to a white oak in the gap of sa Ridge S66W148 along the top of a ridge to a white oak N84W112 crossing a branch to two white oak saplins S9E42 to a stak an sa line + leaving the same S82W70 to a Black oaks grubs N5W100 to 2 white oaks N75E6 to 2 white oaks, N82E140 with his own line to 3 white oaks his corner + with his lines N46E100 to a white oak N65E152 to 3 white oaks N30W50 to a Locust + White oak S65W30 to a Red oak + white oak saplin thence leaving sa lines N5W20 to a white oak N75E48 to a red oak Henry Cafsell corner + with his line S15E46 to a spanish oak S79E116 crossing a branch to a white oak S51E16 to a white oak + S46E56 poles to the beginning
Robert Adams SWE
A copy from records test May 6 th 1800 cyrus Adams Apt SWE
Order for survey 28 September 1802
Survey so much of the lines of the tracts of land in the bills mentioned sold to the complainant by the defendant Williams as agent to the defendant Reeder a the complanant alleges to inter? with lands held ? better poles, that he survey such part of the lines of a tract of land granted on the 10th day of March 1795 to Robert Monvin afsee of Robert Pollard for 75,000 & ?? land as interferes with the land in the ?? mentioned, and also suchfr?ty the lines of a tract of land granted to Gasper Rader on the 28th day of September 1802 containing 230 acres as interfere with the lands in the ? mentioned; that he make out a Fanplat and notion of the interfernces, if any there be, and a calculation of the quantity of the land sold as aforesaid included in the grant to Robert Morris, and a like calculation of the quantity included in the grant to Casper Rader, and return the same to this court at the next term
ammended bill of Jacob Harkarader 28 th September 1802
Jacob Harkarader vs Major Reeder Samuel Williams & John M Preston chy.
To his honor Allen Taylor judge of the superior court of chancery holden at Wythe court house the ammended bill of Jacob Harkarader repersents that it hath been discovered that John Brown claims title to about 30 acres of the land purchased by your orator mentioned in his original title by patent granted to Gasper Rader on the 28 th September 1802 founded on an entry supposed to be more material than that or those under which Major Reeder and Hannah the wife of Robert Davis claim. That it hath been discovered that altho a moiety of 483 acres was sold to your orator yet Majors Reeder has no claim to more than a moiety of 454 acres at his title papers shew your orator prays that Robert Davis & Hannah his wife John Brown and heirs of Robert Moris deceased who claim the land in the hill mentioned surveyed for Robert Pollard may be made parties defendant to this hill and that he may have such releif against them as maybe agreed to equity
Date of J Browns Patent 28th of September 1802
&
also date of same Survey April 10th 1800
Copy of courses of a tract of land granted to Stephen Reeder assee of Robert Steel who was assee of James Doak by patent dated the 28th July 1788 containing 135 acres by Survey
Beginning at two white oaks and a black in a draft + runneth thence S4E50 poles to two white oaks near a spring N82E132 poles to four white oak saplings near a small branch N46E100 poles to a white oak N65E152 poles to three white oaks N30W50 poles to a locust and chesnut oak thence S65W350 to the Beginning
Copy courses of a tract of land granted to Stephen Reeder assee of Conrod Reeder by patent dated 10th January 1799 Containing 24 acres by survey
Beginning at a black -- + running thence S15E52 poles to two white oaks on Stephen Reeders corner near the head of a spring S77W80 poles to a white oak on a hill side N31W40 poles to a Spanish Oak on the side of the brushy mountain N69E92 poles to the Beginning
copies teste J E Brown
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Copy courses of a tract of land granted to Stephen Reeder by patent dated the 23rd day of November 1802 containing 295 acres by survey
Beginning at three white oaks corner to the land of Samuel Crockett and with his lines N71W16 poles to three spanish oaks S84W56 poles to a pine and white oak by the foot of the big ridge S23W140 poles to a double white oak saplin Gasper Rader corner with his lines N74W70 poles to a white oak in a gap of said ridge S66W148 poles along the top of said ridge to a white oak N84W112 poles crossing a branch to two white oak saplines S9E42 poles to a stake on said line and leaving the same S82W70 poles to some black oak grubs N5W100 poles to two white oaks N75E6 poles to two white oaks N87E140 poles with his own line to three white oaks his corner and with his lines N46E100 poles to a white oak N65E152 poles to three white oaks N30W50 poles to a locust and white oak S65W30 poles to a red oak and White oak saplin then leaving said lines N5W20 poles to a white oak N75E48 poles to a red oak Henry Capells corner + with his lines S15E46 poles to a spanish oak S79E116 poles crossing a branch to a white oak S57E16 poles to a white oak + S46E51 poles to the beginning
QUERIES
J. Rader from Fishing Creek passed away in Rio De Janero
A will exists in the Probate Office of the Chester Courthouse in South Carolina. It is written in Portuguese. Apparently, it is the testament of a South Carolinian, J. Rader from Fishing Creek, one of those who went singly (I cannot connect his name to any of the colony movements) to Brazil and made his fortune. Having no family and passing away in Rio De Janero, he dictates his will. A legal document, it of course has to be in the language of the country. It leaves his wealth to kin on Fishing Creek, Chester County, South Carolina.
Rödners
Elizabeth Rödner (Protestant) Born 15 DEC 1837 Obervorschutz, Gundensburg, Hesse and any other Rödners Bob Fingado (916) 421-5680 6285 Fordham Way - Sacramento, CA 95831
Plainfield Twp., Northampton
In the Plainfield cemetery at a Lutheran Church, Plainfield Twp., Northampton Co, PA there are stones for:
David Rader 16 Aug 1812 - 2 Mar 1876
Marietta, his wife 8? Apr 1824 - 27 Mar 1910
Can anyone provide relatives for this couple ?
Dorothy N. Tharpe - 73 E. Terresa, Roberts, WI 54023
Rader Ramblings
(ISSN 1069-0905) is published quarterly by James Lee Rader, 2633 Gilbert Way, Rancho Cordova, CA 95670-3513. Annual rates are $15.POSTMASTER send address changes to publisher.
TOMBSTONE FUND
Last month’s newsletter included a request for donations to the Tombstone Fund. Several of you were prompt in responding with your checks. Thank you for your encouragement
Doyle E. Woods of Greensburg, IN
James N. Elliott of Ada, OK
To replicate the original stone in Granite would cost about $5,000
The Repass association recently replaced one of theirs with a Bronze monument which only cost $ 2, 000. What do you think, should we go for Granite or do twice as many restorations and do them in bronze ?
The tombstone of Reginia Rader wife of Casper is broken off and probably lost. Casper Rader’s tombstone is deteriorating badly. These stones were probably done by Lawrence Krone, a well-known Southwest Virginia stone artist of the early 1800s, who also carved an unusual coffin-shaped marker for Rev. George Daniel Flohr.
All of us who have visited their Gravesites have had the same feeling, something should be done to preserve our ancestors tombstone. I join you in hoping that we can raise enough money to replace these tombstones
"When we are gone, the knowledge we have dies with us unless we leave some permanent record behind. One of the sure ways to preserve our history is to see to the perpetual care of the first family’s resting place, to erect a memorial plaque to honor their memory that will tell all who stroll through the old St. John Cemetery that we take pride in the important part our family played in its history, as well as the early history of this country." Beverly Repass Hoch
Please send your donations made out to me ! If we get enough to cause me to worry about the tax consequences I will create a non-profit organization to handle it. But in the meantime I will keep the funds in my account and will publish a quarterly accounting here.
My nomination
Casper and Reginia Rader,
St John’s Historic Cemetery, Wytheville, VA
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