Rader Ramblings
James Lee Rader -- 2633 Gilbert Way -- Rancho Cordova, CA 95670-3513
2nd Issue September 1991
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Work list
For those of you that want to stay very involved, thank you. The project of gathering All of the rader families is well under way (see progress report) what can you do to further the goal.
First let's discuss the goal further. What do we want to have when we complete this project ? The obvious answer to that question is:
"All of the Raders that have lived grouped in their respective families, with all relationships correctly explained. That will provide the Genealogy but I think we also want the History, what kind of people were these people? What did they do for a living ? What did they accomplish in their social life ?
Another thing that would be nice to have is a Medical Genealogy, what did these people die of ? what physical attributes did they have ? Anything that would allow our current medical professionals to better serve us with by knowing what we might inherit.
What's my point ? From my end it feels like we are approaching the halfway point. I think we have about half of the Rader descendants on the computer. With your continued research and my continued compilation and cross checking we can complete this task in a few months.
To accomplish the goal every one will have to submit the information on ALL Raders in their area, even if they are not your Raders !
Thank you for your participation., Jim
The end product
It appears that we will have more that 7 immigrants with all of their RADER descendants. That will be 7 books each containing 300 pages plus an eighth for an every-person index of all seven books. How do you want to present all of this information ? We, as a family association, could publish these books. What are your wishes ?
I could generate each book on computer disk and you could edit and add pictures to it and publish your particular ancestors book.
There are publishers that will take over the finished work and publish it. They will have a copyright and continue to print the book as a business enterprise.
Send in your suggestions and I will publish them in the next issue of the newsletter.
Immigrant information
Who are the immigrants that started the various lines ? Where did they come from ? How did they get here ? Where did the settle ?
1. Immigrants that we know.
I. Johann Adam Röder's widow Anna Maria and her children ( at least 2).
II. Johann Caspar Röttor on the ship Edinburg Log 13 Aug 1750.
2. Possible ancestors from P. William Filby's Immigration lists
Most of the Ritter's are swiss, I think. Have you checked out these possibilities as your immigrant ancestor? They are by first name because last name spelling of last names is inconsistent.
Name origination stories
How did the current spelling of the name become what it is today ? What are the family customs that your ancestors have practiced for generations? What did your parents and grand parents tell you about the origins of their line ?Query
A Query from - Dorothy Tharpe, 73 East Terresa, Roberts, Wi 54023, 715-749-4094
I have one small query for you. I have a family of children for "Jacob and Christina" and have never been able to fit him into what I know. He is so early that he would have to be a son of the first Michael or Heinrich as no other Roders of the family were around. I think he may be the first real outsider I have spotted in all my research. I wonder if you know anything about the 4 Jacobs you list as arriving in Phila and Maryland. It is all outlined on an enclosed sheet. It is not of major importance, but I am curious.
Jacob would have been born c 1750's. Apparently not son either of Michael or Heinrich. Where recorded? where buried? Have I found an outsider? 3 Jacobs landed in Phila, 1 in Maryland, 1747, 1751, 1764. He could be child of one of these. Can the same Jacob & Christina be parents of the SPB's (St. Paul Blue) and DL's? (Dryland). Dates mesh and the areas are not very far apart.
Information supplied by - Dorothy Tharpe, 73 East Terresa, Roberts, Wi 54023, 715-749-4094
Confused wife
point 1 Jacob Rader son of Casper married an Elizabeth
point 2 Peter Hedrick of Wythe county, in his will of 24 FEB 1832 stated "to my daughter Elizabeth who was intermarried with Jacob Reader "
point 3 previously we have been told that Casper's son Jacob married either Elizabeth Woods or Elizabeth Been with Been the more likely
point 4 There are currently 5 Jacob Rader's on the file who were alive in this time period.
- Jacob Reader b 1795 who married Mary "Polly" Henton,
- Andrew "Jacob" Roeder b 29 Nov1794 who married Catherine Peters
- Jacob Rader (son of Phillip Rader and Mary "Margaret" Kinzer) and
- Jacob Rader (son of Michael Reader and Catherine Long) who we don't know much about
- Does anyone have any information that would add light to this puzzle ?
Computerized data base reports
The present condition of the Data Base (6-6-91)
What can you get from the data base ?
We can create various books from the computer at any time. We can create family group sheets, pedigree charts, lists of individuals or marriages. The book in the Genealogical format is the most data per page. The less pages the less the cost, both printing and postage are directly related to the number of pages.
Books available
There are books and pamphlets currently available. Do you know of one that we don't. Please let the rest of us know about it and have a chance to buy one.
1. Henry Rader and His Descendants by Cecile Rhodes Cannon
The promotional piece describes the book as follows:
Hunter Publishing Company is proud to announce Henry Rader and His Descendants by Cecile Rhodes Cannon ( Hardbound, size 6" x 9", printed on non-fading archival paper, approximately 200 pages.)
This is the story of the pioneer Henry Rader, emigrant from Germany, who traveled with his family to Pennsylvania, then to Burke Co., NC. Henry and his wife Elizabeth began a family which today spreads across the US and overseas. Connecting and substantiating the lineages of the Rader and related families is the task Mrs. Cannon has os superbly achieved -- now the fruits of her labor are available to you..........
You can purchase the book for $45, plus $2.50 shipping, from the author
Cecile Rhodes Cannon - Rt 6., Box 466 - Lenoir, NC 28645 - (704) 758-1565
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The Henry Rader book starts with Henry and his 4 children. It briefly introduces the family but it is really focused on son Conrad and daughter Catherine. Adam Rader's (d 1818) and his wife Sarah ONLY get 1 paragraph. William Rader married Katrine Sharpe 25 MAY 1785 get mentioned in 1 line. Conrad, Sr. (1765-1832) married Susannah Winkler ca. 1787 (buried Cadwell co., NC). Catharine Rader (1770-1845)married George Smith ca 1788 (buried in Caldwell co, NC)
The book needs an INDEX. It is very nicely bound and full of pictures ( over 50)
2. The Germans in Colonial Times by Lucy F. Bittinger, 1901 (facsimile Reprint by Heritage Books, Inc. 1986. 1540E Pointer Ridge Place, Suite 112, Bowie, MD 20716 (301) 390-7709
The following collections of highlights are meant to answer the question; "where did the come from?"
" In 1705 a number of German Reformed, residing between Wolfenbuttel and Halberstadt, fled to Neuwied, a town of Rhenish Prussia, where they remained for some time, and then went to Holland, where they embarked, in 1707 for New York. Their frail ship was, by reason of adverse winds, carried into the Delaware Bay. Determined, however, to reach the place for which they were destined, and to have a home among the Dutch, they took the overland route from Philadelphia to New York."
Kocherthal's Colony The brief and unfortunate history of the colony lead by their pastor Kocherthal to Newburg on the Hudson
the palatines, in March 1708, came to England, - - good Queen Anne, who gave them a shilling a day for their maintenance, and took steps to send them to some of the British colonies. New York was finally selected, and having been naturilized without fee, the Lutherans were given free transportation to New York
the fearful winter of 1708-1709
in May 1709, bands of ragged, miserable Germans began their painful way down the Rhine towards the Low Countries, Rotterdam, and England - - -
by the end of October, 1709, about 15,000 of these "poor mierable Germans" had reached London - - -
"these 17,000 all died in England"
Camps were finally established at several points in the neighborhood of London, notably at Blackheath, where tents from the English military stores in the tower were erected,
The Lutheran and Reformed clergymen of the German Chapel of St. Mary in Savoy ministered to their spiritual wants - -
The Palatinate has the bad eminence of yielding more than one-half of those enumerated; next comes, in order given, Darmstadt, Hanau - - - then "Frankenland", the free cities of Worms and Speyer, Alsace, and Baden
The Queen offered five pounds a head to any one who would take Palatinate refugees and settle them anywhere in England, - - although a certain, or rather uncertain, number did eventually remain in England, the majority of these settlers finally returned in despair to Germany
A british officer settled some 600 on the Scilly Islands, off the coast of Cornwall
650 were transported to North Carolina in Dec 1710
, was that of the Germans sent to Ireland. In all nearly 4,000 colonists were sent thither, and though some returned to Germany and others finally joined the settlers in New York, - - the first section was sent off in August of 1709 --
Some time in the earlier months of the year 1710 - - 3,000 souls, left England, and on June 13 arrived in the harbor of New York. A large number of the poor emigrants had died upon the passage,- nearly 20%, almost all of the children had succumbed to the hardships of an ocean voyage in those times. many of these colonists moved to Tulpehocken in 1723 It would seem there was no emigration by communities, with the single exception of the Tulpehocken settlers; each family came alone ....
This was the great experiment in Louisiana, John Law "purchased from one of the princes of Germany 12,000 Germans to colonize" The Germans on their arrival in October, 1719, were first landed at New Biloxi - - by 1727 they were destitute and moved to Cote d'Allemande.
Berks co, Mennonite emigration came from a recrudescencs of persecution in Switzerland ... in the spring of 1709 a few families of mennonites - Swiss exiles who had sought a later refuge in Worms and Frankenthal -- arrived in Rotterdam and were shipped to Pennsylvania. Hans Meylin was the first gunsmith in Lancaster co.
In 1726 another large emigration of Palatinate Mennonites took place ... tide of immigration into Rotterdam from the Phalz to PA.
The Tunkers from Schwarzenau came to PA in 1719... 10 years later the rest followed. in 1723 they had a religious journey to kindle again the old flame of devotion -- It was to the banks of the Schuylkill, to Falkner's Swamp, Oley, Connestoga, that these apostles of the Dunkers went.
In 1718 -- Jesuit fathers were sent to Liegnitz -- to convert the Schwenkfelders-- for 7 years -- the 3 brothers Von Bynschance set sail for PA in 1733
A certain Jean Pierre Purry, of Neufchatel in Switzerland -- the Carolinas -- Purry collected 170 Switzers to settle at the mouth of the Savannah River
Hans Riemensperger, who was instrumental in bringing many persons, chiefly orphans, as redemptioners into Saxe-Grotha settlements -- of Carolina
the last Germans to settle in a body in the province of South Carolina --- Stumpel procured 500-600 poor Palatines -- in the spring of 1764 2 ship-loads arrived at Charleston
in the autumn of 1742 -- Sebastian Zauberbuhler --- in Speyer, the old Palatinate -- advertized -- recruted 300 Pfalzer and Wurtemberger -- settled the, at Broad Bay, Massachucetts -- many of the settlers took their families with them to Nova Scotia
New Germantown, MA -- the arrival in the Christmasitide of 1753 of the pioneers of "Frankfort on the Kennebec" by 1756 most of the emigrants had served out their passage money and were able to buy themselves farms
Fryeburg, on the New Hampshire border from Bernese Oberland
the little flock of Moravians in the Main woods, a half dozen families went from Main to settle in Salem, North Carolina in 1767 - - - two years later 300 people left Waldoboro and went to Buffalo Creek, Cabarrus County, North Carolina.
These devout Lutherans - - in the Tyrolean Alps - - in 1729-32 30,000 of them were exiled from their homes - - The catholic Archbishop of Salzburg, Leopold, Count Firman - - - their children were taken from them to be brought up in monasteries in the Catholic faith -- 20,000 settled in Prussia -- 11th March 1734 the ship Purysburg landed at Charleston - - they settled about 25 miles up the Savannah River - - - a number of their countrymen joined them in 1735
a large transport arrived in 1741, not only Salzburgers, but Swiss and Pfalzer as well - - there were about 1,200 Germans in the colony of Georgia - - - in 1752 a large number of Germans came to St. Matthaeus's parish - - they were Wurtembergers led by Rev. Mr. Rabenhorst
The emigration of Pennsylvania Germans to North Carolina - - they came overland through the valley of Virginia - - - the first fringe of German settlement was overleaped by the Scotch-Irish who pressed the frontier, but they were again passed by the Germans who settled in extreme western counties of North Carolina - - no ship loads came - - the emigration was not from Germany but from Pennsylvania, and came slowly, drop by drop
The Stedmans, an English firm owning many of the vessels which sailed from the ports of the Low Countries - - - by the middle of the century rivalled the horrors of the slave-trade in its callous cruelty
on these crowded foul ships, during the long voyage ( three moths was the usual time), with poor and insufficient food the death rate was frightful. In the years 1750 and 1755 Saur notes that 2,000 corpses were thrown into the sea --
adult people bind themselves in writing to serve three, four, five, or six years for the amount due from them - - - But the very young people must serve until they are 21 years old.
do you have a pamplet or book we should know about ?
Raders in Germany continued from last quarter ----
International Genealogical Index (TM) - 1988 Edition - Version 2.09
28 SEP 1990 SELECTED ENTRIES by search "Roder" Germany index prior to 1750
Country of Prussia
state of Brandenburg
RAEDER, Anna (F) C: 22 Dec 1696 Wulfersdorf Ostprignitz
RAEDER, Joachim (M) C: 1666 Wulfersdorf Ostprignitz,
RADERS (M) M: 10 Oct 1711 Malchow Waren, Mecklenburg -Schwerin
Hesse-Darmstadt
state of Brandenburg
state of Rheinland
country of Sachsen
state of Wuerttemberg
Events: B=Birth C=Christening M=Marriage N=Census W=Will A=Adult Chr. D=Death F=Birth of 1st Child S=Miscellaneous