Rader Ramblings
James
Lee Rader --
19th
Issue Winter 1995-6
Have you
visited our home page on the internet yet ? page 1
Schuylkill Co,
Rader records page 4
What did I
find in the
1930 W.P.A.
Records , Wythe Co. VA page 5
Did you know that
there were 3 immigrant Rader/
Early Greene
Co., TN Deeds both Slave and Land page
10
Herbert Rader historian
before WWII Germantown, PA page 13
Queries
1.
Who are the ancestors of Marion Rader. Sheriff of
1.
Hypothesis: Steven
Have you visited our home page on the
internet yet ?
http://pages.prodigy.com/CA/raderjim/raderjim.html
Yes we have a Rader home page on the internet. As you know, the Internet is the Information Superhighway that has been on the news for the past year.
I produced this home page over the past few months. The tools to do the work are standard parts of most service providers product. In my case I used the tools on Prodigy. They have been very easy to use and have grown over the winter.
What does a Home page do for our
genealogical research ?
Our home page allows us to share our information very easily. We can let others know that we have created a booklet. We can provide information about reunions. We can offer to help other Raders find their ancestors and cousins.
I have found that the more people who are involved in the project of discovering the Rader heritage the more progress that is made. I found that when I started my great grandfather had died before having any children. I was obviously motivated to correct that confusion. It was caused by researchers mixing the records for two Reuben Rader and treating them as one person
What is on our home page
?
Our home pages contain much of the information that I send out to
prospective researchers. I have loaded the subject from all of the past newsletters,
the table of contents for each of the 5 volumes of the "Second Attempt to
collect all of the Rader, Reader, Raeder, Rö der,
Roeder, Rö tter families in
I have also included an offer to help others with their research. This includes both my EMAIL and snail mail addresses.
Dorothy Tharpe has also agreed to allow me to post information about her work. If you would like to have your activities advertised on these pages please send me the information and I will add it. We can change the information as often as we want so keep me current on your wishes. Examples of the current pages follow.
Where do we Go from Here
?
I would like to add a page for each immigrant !
If you will write up what you want to see on your immigrant I will place it on the internet. I would encourage you to be thorough, several pages of detail would be good. You might include name and address of other descendants who would like to be contacted by cousins!
The main page
"pages.prodigy.com/CA/raderjim/raderjim.html
Intro to the Association
Free help and Sample copy of newsletter
Schuylkill Co, Rader
records
The following are from copies of
original documents in the files of Schuylkill county Historical Society,
1 April 1803 Conrad Reader Sr and Conrad
Reader Jr both of
1 April 1803 Conrad Reader Sr and Conrad
Reader Jr both of
1 April 1803 Conrad Reader Sr and Conrad
Reader Jr both of
21 Jan 1804 Berks county: Caine Mathias Wenner??
And Christian Luiken bill are well acquainted with
Andrew Kraft late of Manheim township in the
11 Apr 1845 John Reader of the
13 Jan 1846 Conrad Raether of
What did I find in the
I went to find those printed sources that are not available on microfilm.
Most other things that are available from this library can be sent to your
local Family History Library (LDS) for your use. These books are not on circulation
so you have to go to
As you can see I copied many of those other spellings. I did not do the Ritter spelling which was probably a mistake.
Surname State Date Title shelf # pages
Rader IN 1868 FGS Kathi Boice A1 # 3082 1
Rader OH 1823 Sebring Collections Se22p 10
Rader OH 1850 The eye of a family B934m 20
Reader PA 1790 William Henderson Reader R227t 10
Reoder
Rode OH 1849 Johannes Heinrich Roder R613r 55
Roeder 1875 Peter Rausch R193e 1
Roeder OH 1889 Spielbusch - Roeder Sp44s 3
Roeder PA 1740 Nina May Bright B768g 10
Roeder PA 1933 Koffel history K821r 9
Rohrer PA 1867 Naturalization in PA D3b 1
Ruder KS 1876 Our Rohr Ancestors R636a 22
Rutter MD 1680 Roland & Spicer families A1 # 3895 6
Rutter MD 1858 Roland & Spincer R641r 5
Rutter OR 1900 Hanby & allied families H191b 20
Rutter PA 1728 John
Neill of
Rutter PA 1850 Lindley C Rutter bible A1 # 5392 8
various PA 1756-66 Schumacher’s Baptismal 978.4 B4 29
PA Colonial Recds Vol 1-15 974.8 N2p 75
The
following 6 pages are from Mary Kegley. Most of it is
from the WPA but it has some notes by others ? I hope
I have typed it without errors. Please send me your additions and corrections -
Jim Rader 1996
The
At the same time and on the same warrant he entered 46 acres assigned him by Walter Crockett, assingee of John (or Jehn) Smyth, on the waters of Reed Creek at the end of Queen’s Knob, near Cove Creek.
A will dated November 1801 and
made by Philip
The household must have been a busy one. With its three spinning wheels and loom turning out the cotton cloth, wool, woolen yarn and flax thread, and also dyed woolen thread offered at the sale of Philip Reader’s personal estate. A number of spools were included. Three guns, shot pouches and powder horns suggest a favorite pastime as well as protection. A fiddle and decanter add a note of family merriment, while a shoemaker’s bench and tools add another home industry.
Philip
Joanna (Juna) maried Jessie Evans, Jr.; Pamela, William Harmon, and Maudana, Daniel Harmon.
The Reader Mill, built in 1787, was located on the east side of Stoney Fork, not far from its junction with Reed Creek.
Two other
Stephen
Stephen
Stephen
In the division of the estate,
Sally received the land on the ford on Reed Creek and one lot in Evansham, $ 700; John one equal moiety of land and mills on
Main Stoney Fork, $ 900; Nancy Staley, lands under
Queens Knob, $ 800; Major, one equal moiety in Cove and one in lands on Stoney Fork, adjoining bands of Henry Umberger
and John Cline, $774; Samuel, parcel known as Newmann’s
land, $ 808; Philip, the other moiety of land on Stoney
Fork, equal to John’s, $ 900 each. Polly
Between the years 1796 and
1804, inclusive, Steven
Entered Aug 6, 1790 100 acres
assigned to Stephen
Entered 1790 113 a
Entered Mar 4, 1793 182 acres
Entered Jan 14, 1800 30 ¾ acres Reed Ck
1804 36 acres Queens Knob
These entries gave Stephen Rader an extensive tract, touching Queen’s Knob on the northwest, and reaching out to the Old Stage Road on the southwest. His sons, Philip, John and Major, inherited much of this land.
It appears that Casper Rader
(Gaspar Roeter) and his entire family lived for at
least some time, in Wythe County, which was formed in 1790, Before that, this
area was known as Motngomery Co. Just when he arrived
here is unknown, but the tax list in 1782 does not list him. In 1785 his
daughter Mary wife of Christopher Brown, signed a release of "Brown"
land in
In Montgomery Co. marriages
Conrad (son of
Philip Röder and Margaret parents of Samuel b. July 11, 1804
Philip Röder and Rebecca parents of
Daniel Röder and Elizabeth parents of Samuel b. Apr 20, 1805
Casper Röder and Barbara sponsors for Joseph, child of Christian
Schröder and wife Catherine, born 1805.
Conrad Röder and Elizabeth parents of
Sponsor was Catharine Lydy (Conrad’s sister)
John Röder and Mary parents of Mary b. Feb 27, 1806
Jacob Röder and Elizabeth parents of Sarah b. March 21, 1806
Peter Röder and Tarkis (Dorcas) parents of Eliza b. Oct 29, 1812
The original of these records were written in german and Röder is the way the name was written in German.
WILLS
Book 2, page 24 Casper Rader
(Gaspar Roeter) left all his lands to son peter,
and he was to pay other heirs £ 500
divided equally among the following: Conrad, Henry, John, son William was
deceased so his three heirs will claim his portion, namely Samuel, Mary and
Susan; Jacob, Casper, Mary wife of Christopher Brown, Philip, Daniel, and
Catherine wife of Jonathan Leedy. His will was
written May 18, 1812 Probated Aug. 11, 1812 Witnesses were Johannes Braun,
Leonard Umberger, and Henry Cassell.
His wife was named
Book 1 - 197 Phillip
William Rader appraisal of estate of deceased, recorded July 13, 1802.
Stephen
Casper Rader died July 16, 1811 in his 80th year (his will
was signed in 1812 therefore this date must be incorrect, probably 1812.
Rachel Rader consort of Casper Rader died Oct. 31, 1816 in her 70th year
Casper Rader’s daughter and her husband as follows:
Christopher Brown died July 16, 1816 age 65
Mary consort of Christopher Brown died May 10, 1822
Casper Rader’s wife was probably a Reick. No proof.
Marriages in Wythe Co.
Henry Rader (Heinrich Rather) married Catherine Etter (Cathrina Etter)
Nov. 30, 1790 by Rev John Stanger.
John Rader (Rather) married Mary Etter Dec. 17, 1793.
Philip
William
Majors
Samuel
Thomas Rader married Melinda Brown Nov 23, 1826
Jacob
Robert Davis & Hannah
Jacob T. Fishback and Caty Rader Feb 2, 1815. Marriage bond with
George Oury dated Feb 2, 1815 for marriage with Catherine daughter of Conrad Rader
John Cregar had bond with Christopher Brown surety dated June 19, 1815
for marriage with Anne Rader dau. Of William Rader
William Harmon and Permetia (Permelia )
Daniel Harman & Mandena
James Bedwell Jr and
Jane
Zodak Sexten
& Peggy
John Stailey & Nancy
DEEDS
Henry Rader
- sold 100 acres which was surveyed for him in 1783, located on Pine Ridge, Date of deed 1795.
- other tracts ib 1802, and this deed mentions his wife Catherine.
- Dec 15, 1815 .. Henry is of Green Co.,
.
1802 Coonrod Rader sold to Jacob Rader land in Cove. But body of deed
it says Coorod & Elizabeth to Peter Rader.
1803 John Rader and Mary sold a lot in town in 1800, 300 acres on
1808 Jacob & Betsey Rader sold land in Cove Creek.
1811 Division of lands and slaves
belonging to Stephen
children are as follows: Sally, Hannah, Samuel, John, Philip, Major, and Nancy wife of John Staley
1816
- Samuel
- Philip
- Executors of Casper Rader Dec’d deeded land to John Brown … Peter Rader who inherited the land from his father released his interest to John Brown. This was530 acres, one 200 acre plot, 1 - 100 acre plot, and one 230 acre plot
- Jacob &
Elizabeth
1817 John Rader signed a lease to rent a house in town in 1817 and now
rents all but one room to John P. and Richard Matthews. John and Pamelia in debt in 1819. Deed of trust, and various other entries till 1828.
1818 Samuel Reader and Letty of Pulaski Co, KY sold to John Staley a lot in
1821 A list of Daniel Etter heirs mention Henry and Catherine Rader, (who was Daniel’s daughter). This was Daniel Sr.
1822
- Conrad Rader in debt to Jacob Rader - deed of trust for personal property.
- Josiah
1825 Major
1826 Jacob & Peggy Rader deed of trust for debts.
1831 Major
tracts of land gratned to Stephen
1838 Nancy
children of John sold 275
acres to Elijah Tarter – the interest in which John and Philip
Philip
had a mill on Cove Creek in present Wythe Co near
Stephen
Also Eagle Tavern - see Goods Map 1821 Wythe Co.
Early Greene Co., TN Deeds both Slave and Land
North Carolina Land Grants in
Tennessee, 1778-1791 by Goldine Fillers Burgner contains only one possible entry.
750 John Rider 100 on Sinking Creek
Sinking Springs Lutheran church Greene
Co., TN
The original book has page #7
for Henry Rader and wife
22 Sep 1805 their son baptised
5 June 1808 their son Daniel baptised
19 Jan 1816 their daughter baptised
24 June 1819 their daughter baptised
2 June 1820 their son John Peter baptised
p57 Samuel Rader and wife Delila their son James Wyly
born 23 Apr 1834
baptized 22 June 1834
p60 Andrew Rader and Wife their daughter Sarah
Jane born 22 April 1835
p63 Andrew Rader + wife their dau. Barbara Emaline born
16 July 1837
Sinking spring graveyard
Louise w of U.S Rader + dau of Abram + Sena Bible
May 13, 1823 - Aug 12, 1858
Lemuel son of UWS + L Rader
On one of my many trips to Greeneville, Greene Co, TN my cousin Margated Rader accompanied me to the court house. She is a resident of that county and felt cousin Eddie Oakley, the county clerk, would let her see the "OLD SLAVE BOOKS". He did and I copied ALL of the records that I could find containing " Rader" entries.
These three books (I think there were three, maybe more) were different sizes and in very old condition. One of them was titled "Power of Attorney Book No. 3" 1875-1903
page 222
22 Sep 1801 Thomas Providence to John Reader for 200 acres
Page 50
26 Sep 1804 Thomas Keep of Mattison
Co., KY and Phillip Rader of Greene Co., TN for $200 sells to Phillip
Rader 290 acres on Skippers Creek bounded by William Marshalls
line and Abraham Byers in
page 53
16 Nov 1805 Saymore
Catching of Greene Co., TN and Jacob Rader of Wythe Co., VA . (a North Carolina Grant to Stokley Donaldson for 5,000 acres 27 Aug 1795 number 1339
which was conveyed to John Love esq. Sold to Seymore Catching for Taxes by the sheriff ) Sold for $7 22
acres
page 55
13 Jun 1806 Thomas Keef sells to
Phillip Rader
page 36
22 Sep 1810 Henry Reader sells to John Etter
105 acres
9 Jan 1810 Andrew McPheron of Greene Co, TN sells to Henry Reader for $1,000 140 acres
page 37
22 Sep 1810 Andrew McPheron
sells140 acres on the north side of Lick creek to Henry Reader
page 378
11Aug 1810 State of
page 438
16 Sep 1812 Henry Cross of Greene Co, TN sells 110 acres to John
Reader for $ 500 . This land is in Greene,
Jefferson and
page 39
16 Sep 1812 Henry Cross sells to John Rader $15
for 50 acres in Bulls Gap
page 48
1819 John Rader and Peggy Rader sold to Jacob Rader
125 acres from the estate of John Freshour
page 340
22Oct 1828 Saml Johnston
of
page 42
24 Jan 1825 John Rader and wife Margaret Rader
sued Freshour estate to recover their land
page 95
1833 J William Rader of Rush co, Indianna
power of attorney
page 96
21 Feb 1835 William Rader and Elizabeth Rader signed
power of Attorney
page 341
12 Dec 1840
page 50
10 Aug 1850 John Dunnwody
sold to William Rader a girl slave named Hannah for $ 380
page 220
28 Sept 1855 William Rader sold to Andrew S. Bowers
for $ 1,600 the following negroes Jesse about 25
years of age Mary Haret about 25 years of age and
Mariah Adaline infant child about 7 months
page 292
1 Feb 1858 Michael Cobble signed a Trust Bill of sale for $200
to John Rader
page 291
1858 Michael Cobble sold to John Rader for $ 200
one Roan horse about 5, 3 head of cattle, a milk cow, a red muly
heifer and one white & black spotted bull calf and a long list of personal
property
page 323
8 Jan 1859 George Ross and Elizabeth Ross his
wife sold to Jesse Rader for $ 900 a black boy named Jack aged 30 years
page 436
2 Mar 1874 Thomas Russell and wife Martha Jane Russell and
James Etter and wife Eliza Jane Etter
have sold to J. A. Rader for $ 1,000 on payments a tract of land at
Midway Tennessee district # 19 containing 110 acres
page 92
4 Mar 1878 E. M Rader of Balis of
the
Inventory of box of records
left by Herbert Rader of
- 19 letters from Harry W. Evard Sr, 3522 Central Ave,
Indianapolis 5, IN (1939- 1952) maiden name Helen E. Jacoby, 818 East 58th
Street, Indianapolis, IN
- 2 letters from Emma R.
Schuler,
- his inventory of ALL stones in old cemetery
- correspondence with The
Historical Society of Schuylkill County about history of
- A carbon for a letter to Mr. C.W. Unger (see next page)
- Newspapers:
The Philadelphia Inquirer Nov 16, 1939 page
7,8,15,16
- Rader history, 4 pages Sept 6, 1936 unsigned ?
- Copy of ship record from PA German Pioneers (ship sally, November 3, 1772
- Letters to Driedorf,
- letters from Reinhold Scholl
of Stuttgart Germany about "Adam Reder and
wife Catherine emigrating to America in 1724" and Conrad Roder geboren 1751 (1938) see
newsletter # 6 for most of this information with translations)
- Genealogy and History
newsletter from October 15, 1941
- more to follow !!
Rõ der Schwartzwald ch rcds
Johannes Rõ
der
Johannes b Apl 20, 1785 sp Joh. Neukirch and w. Catharina
Conrad Rõ
der
Johan Caspar b. July 18, 1788 sp Caspar Mau
Wilhelm Rõ
der
A son b. Mch 21, 1793, sp parents
Georg b. Feb 20 1799 sp parents
Elisabeth b. Nov 24, 1804, sp Elisabeth Rõ der
Buried. June 19 1799 a son Conrad Rõ der
- Oct 2, 1796 age 2/8/15
September 23, 1939
Mr C.W Unger
Dear Mr. Unger:
I appreciate greatly your
translation of the church book and accounts of
( 3 paragraphs of translation details and problems)
I Just
discovered that I neglected to acknowledge the card with Roder
data enclosed with your August 21st letter from Schwartzwald
church records. Most interestingly, as it catches up with Conrad Roder in his trek from Chester County toward Manheim
Township (Schuylkill County) The Johan Casper, son of Conrad, is undoubtedly Kasbar my great grandfather, although this is the first and
only time the Johann appears in his name - undoubtedly an error in the Schwartzward record, as his older brother (first son of
Conrad), born in Chester County, March 13, 1780, was named Johannes. Another
slight discrepancy is in the date of birth, In both my
bibles it is recorded as August 3, 1788 instead of July 18, 1788. The sponsor, Kasber Maull, checks.
The son of Conrad Roder, buried June 19, 1799, born October 2, 1796, was "Wilhelm" . This checks accurately with record of birth and death as recorded in my bible - my record shows "getauft wurden in Reding".
The Johanned Roder to whom a son Johannes was born April 20, 1785, sponsor Joh. Neukirch and also the Wilhelm Roder with three children born from 1793 to 1804, are strangers, although I haven’t the slightest doubt a relationship existed.
QUERIES
Query 1: Query from Charles Raider, Jr.
I
met James W.
Charles Rader (b. 11 Sep 1956)
Mike Raider (b. 13 Feb 1958)
Ricky Raider (b 10 Jul 1960)
My father was Charles Edward Raider my mother is Benita Mae Alsman Raider. My father had 3 brothers and a sister:
- Bob Raider - died of cancer @ 49 married Wanda ( He had
a.
a daughter Debbie [who I was told married an
architect and lives in
b. a son Danny (married)
c. Ricky (who has a twin)
d. Dana
e. Robin
- Marion Raider, Jr. (died between 47 and 49) wife Jo Ann they had. daughter Teressa (who has one son)
- Bell Raider (died of bone cancer when she was 40-42 years of age) had one daughter who was adopted by some people in Indianna
- Gene Raider (killed himself at 46 because he was ate up with cancer all over his body) who married Mildred Olge (who is the source of most of this information)
His father Marion Rader (german) who
married Edsa Canter (full blood indian)
came from Hazard, KY where he was sheriff..
He had 2 stepsons or illegitimate (according to my
aunt Mildred Olge /Rader/ Wengerlin
She died at 38 years of age from TB and pneumonia. He died in the kitchen of a heart attack at 50 years. None of their kids lived past 50. Except for Bill and Oscar who were not Edesa Raiders children.
Bill Rader also had a son who is a minister
somewhere in
Mildred Raider / Wenger (513) 923-1428
Bill Rader (513) 671-0752
Query 2: From Dr.
Michael D. Rader -
November 25, 1995
As
you may recall, I wrote you about 2 years ago to inquire about the ancestors of
John Rader who lived with his wife Permelia in Wythe
Co., VA between 1819 and 1828.
Census records in 1850 and 1860
and the intervening years show him to be in Tazwell county. His year of birth extracted from census data is
1790-96. He was a tailor and Parmelia’s maiden name
was Gannaway. The Gannaways
were also residents of
My line of Raders
came from Thomas Augusta Rader (b 1830 Tazwell Co.)
He moved to
Virginia (Rader) Jenkins has done much of the research on this line which you probably already have. If not, I would be happy to pass it on to you.
My line is Michael (1963) - Dick (1940) nash (1910) Jewett (1873) Thomas (1830) John 1796). In search to find the ancestors of John (1796) I too have looked at Wythe Co., VA. I have enclosed a copy of work that was passed on to me that may be of interest to you. I too believe several of the Raders were brothers.
January 7, 1996
Back in November I received
your newsletter and once again began to rehash the information I have regarding
the Raders in Montgomery/ Wythe/ Tazwell
Co., VA.
As you may recall I wrote to
you in ’93 regardin a John and Permelia
Rader of Tazwell Co., VA. The information you were
able to extract for me was that of John Rader the son of
In reading your fall ’94 issue of Rader Ramblingsyou mention
Mary Kegley the premier genealogist of Wythe Co., VA.
I have a 3 page copy of a type written summary of Rader,
I will enclose my written hypothesis for your perusal. I’m sure you probably have documents to support or refute parts or all of it. I would appreciate your coments
Hypothesis: Steven
- They appear to have moved to Montgomery Co., VA from Cumberland Co., PA around 1783 as extracted from tax records.
- They had land adjacent to each
other as stated in a deed for the sale of land belonging to Major
- The spelling of the last
name went through many variations on an even yearly basis as depicted in
Cumberland Co., PA tax records from 1773-1782 (Ruder, Rider, Ryder, Reedar,
While Stephen was probably not
a direct descendant of Casper because he was not listed in Casper’s will, he
could possibly have been a younger brother brought over from Europe or sent
over after Casper was here. There is
20 years difference in their ages. Another consideration would be that Stephen
was a nephew who was close to his uncle
At this point, because of the variations in spelling seen above, I don’t think they were not related. I also think it is reasonable to consider Stephen’s son John to be the same John Rader who married Permelia Gannaway.
- It is apparent that the Gannaway family was close to the Stephen
- Also in 1838 there is a
dead "Nancy
- We know also that John
In
the fall issue I introduced the idea of a tombstone fund. I received some
interest but no volunteers. But I think it is a worthwhile project so I will
take it on in my spare time.
Please
send your donations made out to me ! If we get enough
to cause me to worry about the tax consequences I will create a non-profit
organization to handle it. But in the meantime I will keep the funds in my
account and will publish a quarterly accounting here.
Also
send me detailed nominations for grave sites that need attention. I will also
publish that list and would appreciate your help in prioritizing the projects.
Please provide specific information about the grave sites to be maintained and
what they need.
My nomination
Her
stone is gone and his is almost unreadable
The
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