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Rader Ramblings
James Lee Rader -- 2633 Gilbert Way -- Rancho Cordova, CA 95670-3513
11th Issue Winter 1993-4
_ 18th century Church Records, Raders in Colonial PA. page 2
_ JOHN RADER who married Rosina Walther in 1755 question page 14
_ Melvin RADER's letters at Johns Hopkins University page 17
_ Queries; page 18
Antique Dorthea Röder Photo Album,
Henry Rader book
_ CHALLENGE OF EXPLORING THE RöDER-RADER FAMILIES. page 19
This issue contains the results of many years of work. The church records from Colonial Pennsylvania have been translated from the original German to English by William J. Hinke. He apparently typed one original with several carbon copies. The work spans many years through the 1930's. I have seen more than one copy of the same church. His early work appears with no notes, later revisions show that he revisited his work. The ones that I have seen are in The Burks county Genealogical Library, the Lancaster Mennonite library and the latest in the Archives of the Evangelical and Reformed Historical Society. I have started working my way through their lending library of Microfilm.
If you have any RADER church records from Colonial Pennsylvania, please share them with me and I will collate them into one complete list with index.
Second Attempt to Collect ALL of the Rader/Raeder/Reader/Röder/Roeder/Rötter
Families in America
The printed copies of the first attempt are about gone. There are no Hardbound copies left and only three soft bound. The data base of Raders has grown from around 10,000 individuals to over 17,000 since September 1992. Many errors have been corrected in the data base and the quality of information is better.
Please get all of your corrections and additions in as soon as you can. I will probably create a draft copy of the "Second Attempt" this spring.
Two Years of checking microfilm, 23 Rolls checked
The Berks County Genealogical society offers several services. Much of the work which produced the successful location of Casper Rader (1732-1812) in Pennsylvania was produced by Elaine Schwar.
Elaine D. Schwar
Berks County Genealogical Society
527 N. 25th St.
Reading, PA. 19606
In 1991 I discovered that one could rent microfilmed records from Berks County Genealogical society. For the next two years I rented film at a rate of two rolls per month. My usual approach was to check for indexes. If I found one I would check several spellings of Rader. The materials from those searches are enclosed.
- The following is a list of those rented
009 - Tohickon Lutheran Church
013 - 2 reformed churches from 1763 -
014 - misc early churches
018
025 - St Peters in Richmond twp
026 - Bethel Evangelical, Robeson twp
028 - misc early churches
029 - misc early churches
033 - Bethlehem
034 - misc early churches
035 - misc early orphan records
065 - Lebanon Co newspaper clippings 1760 -
106 - Rev Traugott Frederick Illing 1780-
121 - misc early churches
122 - St Peters in Richmond twp
138 - 2 reformed churches from 1740 -
139 - Plow Lutheran, Robeson 1770- & Bowers
142 - Gerhart family
212 - Trinity Lutheran in Reading from 1751
214 - Berks County Tax lists (incl Bethel twp)
217 - " " " " (incl. Oley twp)
218 - " " " " (incl. Robeson twp)
224 - Journals of Berks
My usual searching method was:
1.Look for any spelling like Rader, Ritter, Roeder, etc.
2. stop checking after 1800, they get very large as the population increases.
Roll 9
Tohickon Lutheran Church
- Conrod Koder wife Anna Maria bap Christina b Oct 13,1779
- Conrad Coder and wife Maria Catharina bap Maria Magdalena born Sep? 14,83 bap Apr 11,1784
- Conrad Koder anf wife Maria Catharina bap Martin June 5 born Apr 15 1785 or 6
- Conrad Koder wife Maria Catharine bapt Maria Sep 2 born Apr 28, 1786
- Henry Koder wife Sabrina bapt Catherine b Aug 10, ba Aug 29 1790
- John Rödlein wife Susanna bap Philip b Oct 22, 1792 bap May 12, 1793
Roll 13
1. Trinity Tulpenhocken Reformed Church, Jackson twp, Lebanon Co., PA 1748-1884
- John Reather Mary Elizabeth parents
- Lavina b. Nov 25, 1862
- bapt. Febr 2, 1863
2. St. John's Swatara Reformed congregation, Jonestown, Lebanon Co., PA 1740-1882
- Raber, Maria 1775
- Daniel 1800 ?
- Rader, Daniel sp 1800
- Margaretha sp 1800
- Roder, Elisabeth sp 1825
- Roeder, Elisabeth sp 1825
3. Heidleberg Evangelical Lutheran congregation Church Record 1758-1850 Heidleberg twp., Lehigh Co., PA
- Conrad Roeder Johannes Roeder
- and wife b Feb 18, 1773
- Daniel Roeder
- b. Oct 28, 1774
- Heinrich Roeder Abraham
- and wife b. May 17, 1777
- Abraham Rader Sara
- w Sarah Nov 5, 1816 - Jan 1, 1817
- Daniel Roeder Daniel
- w Margaretha Feb 11, 1811 - Apr 5, 1818
- Abraham Roeder Heriete (Harriet)
- w Sarah Dec 20, 1821 - Feb 3, 1822
- Lutheran Baptisms from the private record of Pastor Daniel Schumacher
- Adam Roeder Anna Barbara Abraham Antony
- w Margaretha bp June 30, 1762 3 wks old Magdalena Schneider, single
4. Pastorial Record of Rev. John Henry Helffrich 1790-1810
- Apr 30, 1798
- Heidelberg, Lehigh Co.
- Daniel Röder % Margretha Ibbert
roll 18 Zion's Lutheran or "Lehigh" church
Lower Macungie Township, Lehigh Co.
- Rodler
- 11 Peter Rodler Johann Phillipp Philipp Hiln
- Bernhardina b. Apr. 9, 1761 Barbara, Peter Federolf
- bp. May 10, 1761 single dau.
- 15, Peter Rödler Elisabetha Catharina Hans Adam Jeres and
- Bernhardina Elisabetha Apr. 24, 1763 Anna Elisabeth, w. of
- Dom. Cantate Joseph Bieri
- 18, Peter Rödler Anna Catharina ______ Grammes and wife
- Aug 24, 1766 the child's grandparents
- 19, Peter Rödler Samuel (omitted)
- May 3, 1767
- 42 Philip Rödler Elisabeth Michael Deil
- Anna H. May 31, 1781 Beratina
- Aug 5, 1781
Union Church Record of Upper Saucon or Friedens Church
Friedensville, Upper Saucon Township, Lehigh County
- (1763-1787) 1733-1832
- Rader 57, Charles Räder Thomas Heinrich Räder
- Margaretha May 8th 1830 Maria
- June 15th "
- 64 Peter Rader Feyette Elisabeth Timothy Miller
- Anny May 8th 1835 Marg.
- no entry
- Roder 48 Honr. Röder Henrich Philipp Flexor
- Maria Sept 25th 1824 Maria
- Febr. 20th, 1825
St. Paul's (Blue) Church Upper Saucon Township
Lehigh Co., PA
- 36- Jacob Reder Catharina E. Daniel Jansin
- Christina Oct 13, 1775 Catharina Schneider
- Oct 29, 1775
- 37- Jacob Reder John Jacob Jacob Eräman
- Christina Nov 15, 1776 Catharina
- Dec 6., 1776
- 38- Jacob Reder John Christina Weigel
- Christina May 19, 1779 Eva Reinhart
- Nov 8, 1778
- 39- Jacob Reder Anna Maria Anna Maria Schneider
- Christina Nov 3, 1779 Conrad Rau
- Dec 25, 1779
- Casper Ritter Anne Catharina Johan Jacob Bus
- Anna Maria May 26, 1756 Eva Elisabeth
- June 2, 1756
- Martin Ritter Johan Heinrich Henrich Ritter
- Maria Margaretha Apr 9, 1752 Elisabetha
- Apr 26, 1752
- Johan Henrich Röder Johan Jürg Jürg Herzel
- Anna Maria b. & bp. Aug 10, 1757 Catharina
Epler's Reformed Church, Bern Township, Berks Co.,
- Reiter, Reider
- parents
child sponsors
- 14, Val. Hiller Ma. Magda. b. 6 SEP 1847 Aaron Reiter
- Maria bp. 31 OCT 1847 Maria
- 26, Fri'k. Reiter Mary Margaret b. 14 Apr 1853 George Bigel
- Caroline bp. 3 JUN 1855 Margaret
- 36, Jacob Yoh Leanora b. 2 NOV 1858 Daniel Dillon
- Maria (Rider) bp. 1 MAY 1859 Hanna
- d. 3 DEC 1860
- 70, George Reiter Carrie Isabella b. 5 APR 1875 Isabella Bingenman
- Katie Eyrich bp. 22 MAY 1875
- Wellington B. Wayne Rosa Aquilla b. 8 JUL 1876 Rebecca Wayne
- Ann (reiter) bp. 27 AUG 1876
- 79, George Reider Carrie Issabella b. 5 Apr 1875 Isabella
- Katie Ann Rebecca (Eyrich) bp. 25 MAY 1875 ; Bingeman
- 87, Wellington Wayne Harvey Charles b. 25 FEB 1886 Parents
- Annia (Reiter) Wellington bp. 25 APR 1886
- 89 Wellington Wayne Clarence Lomiah b. 24 MAY 1889 mother
- Ann (Reider) bp. 8 Aug 1889
Ritter
- 77, Samuel Ritter Katie Rebecca b. 31 JUL 1879 Parents
- Sallie (Roth) bp. 25 SEP 1879
- 91 Frank S. Bagenstose Clinton Franklin b. 18 MAR 1892 Parents
- Mary Ann K. (Ritter) bp. 1 MAY 1892
Roeder
- 39, Jacob Yoh Valeria b. 2 MAR 1860 Joseph Rebholz
- Maria (Roeder) 9; Magdalena bp. 10 JUN 1860 Magdalena
- 69, Ruben Roeder Emilie Eliza b. 18 SEP 1873 Sarah Roth
- Melinda (Roth) bp. 19 JUL 1874
- 75, Ruben Roeder John b. 20 Oct 1877 Mother
- Melinda (Roth) bp. 19 MAY 1878
- 79, Ruben Roeder Susanna b. 8 OCT 1879 Susanna Kutz
- Melinda (Roth) bp. 29 JUL 1880
- 81 Ruben Roder Susanna Annora b. 8 OCT 1879 Susanna Ruth
- Melinda (Roth) bp. 29 OCT 1879
- Samuel Andrew b. 16 JAN 1882 Mother
- bp. 27 FEB 1882
Ruther
- 23 Jacob Yoh Georg William b. 6 MAY 1853 William Spat
- Maria (Ruther?) bp. 21 DEC 1853 Maria
Confirmations
Reider 105
New Jerusalem Reformed Rockland Township, Berks Co., Pa 1841 - 1967
pg 27
Robert Roeder Verna Hannah Roeder 30 DEC 1899
Mary A. Roeder 25 Mar 1900
Roll 19
Windsor's Zion (Windson Castle) transcribed by Rev. A. S. Leiby 1935; checked and corrected by Wm. J Hinke; indexed by Jacqueline Nein (1989) Vol 1 1762-1837, vol 2 1840-1867
Alspach & Wf (Dorothea) Johan Abraham Dec 21st 1761 Adam Räder
Jan 20th 1762 Susanna Hauss
could be Raussin
Leonard Rothermel (52) Anna Maria June 21st 1794 Samuel Fredrich School
Susanna March 25th 1795 Anna Marin
Stone Valley or Zion's Luthern and Reformed Congregation
Hickory Corner, Lower Mahanoy twp, Northlumberland Co., PA
Rev John Michael Enderlein 1777, apr - 1784, Apr
Reider, George Reider Susanna b. Feb 5, 1767 Diedrich Steinbrecher
& wf bapt Apr 18, 1779
Reuter, Wilhelm Reuter, Johann George Johan George Reuter
& wf. Elisabeth b Aug 10, 1786 wf. Magdalena
nee Lasch bapt Sept 10, 1786 nee Still, Grandparents
Old List of Church Members
Becker's St. Peter's Lutheran Church
Reider Henry
George
John L.S.
Burial Record of Becker's Church
Richmond twp, Berks Co., PA
Reider, Henry 5 Feb 1822 - 7 Mar 1889
"The Kutztown Patriot" a weekly newspaper 1898-1900
Victoria Rader at William Clauser's 44th birthday Sat, Mar 11, 1899
Longswamp Church Record, Longswamp twp, Berks Co., PA 1816-1906
Rader
- Lewis Rader Katie
- Catharine Gorr b Mar 31, 1877 bapt Oct 7, 1877
- Lewis Rader Mary Elisabeth
- Catharine Gorr Dec 1, 1878- Oct 16, 1879
-
- Lewis Rader Erwin Henry William Rader & wfe
- Catharine Gorr Sept 13, 1822-Nov 12, 1882
- Lewis Rader Estella Victoria Ruppert Rader
- Catharine Gorr Aug 31, 1886- Sep. 7, 1886 Mary
- Rupert Rader George Alfred G.W. Reinert
- Mary Reinert Feb 22, 1886-Apr 24, 1886
- Philip Douston William James mother
- Rosa Mar 28, 1890-May 18, 1890
- Irwin Rader Viola Oliva parents
- Sallie Ann Sehnahel Jun 11, 1902-Nov 11, 1902
- The baptisims of Reverend ? Helffrich at Longswamp end here
- Rupert Rader Oliver Sylvester parents
- Mary A. Reinart Mar 19, 1882- Jun 22, 1882
- Same Callie Victoria Lewis Rader & Caroline
- Feb 1, 1883-Apr 29, 1883
- Rupert Rader Clara Mantana Annanias Shoemaker
- Mary A. Reinart Dec 24, 1884-Jan 8, 1885
Reider
Amanda Schmidt Sarah Catharine F. Harrison Miller
Mary Ann Reider July 30, 1857-Sept 6, 1857
Reiter
John Reiter Philip Dresher Conrad Dresher
Judith (Dresher) Aug 31, 1828-Sep 10, 1828
Burials at Longswamp Church
Roeder
- Rubin ? Fretz s. of Jacob Fredt & w
- July 15, 1809-Jan 4, 1865 #9; Magdalena Roeder; m Judith Tuberculosis
- Steffy 32 yrs, 10 children
- Reeder, Francina, daughter of John and Hanna Reeder was born Sept 15, 1758
- Robert Chambers and Francina Roeder were married Nov 22, 1781
- John Roeder Chambers, son of Robert and Francina Chambers was born Aug 29th A.D. 1782
- Reeder Chambers son of Robert and Francina Chambers was born 30 Aug 1796
Roll 25 Berks Co Gen. 7/16/91 Jim Rader
St John's Reformed Church Orwigsburg, Sch Co., PA
- Reder (Rader)
- 7 Reder Pierson, of Isaac & Ann B 7-2-1847
- 11 Reder Emma Eliz. of John & Eliza B 8-22-1849
- 13 Reder Wm. Henry of Chas. & Cath. B 4-3-1851
- 21 Roder Chas. mar Lucknebill, Cath 8-31-1850
- 24 Raber Abr. mar Wenrich, Mary A. 8-18-1861
- Reppert, Albert H. m Redor, Lydia A. 12-29-1867
- Schweiger, Reuben H. m Rider, Melara 2-18-1868
- 27 Roeder, Abr. m Moyer, Ellen R. 5-18-1895
Hetzel Church, Schuylkill Co., PA
- Reder, Conrath 21
- Elisabeth 21,21,22,26
- William 21,22,26
- William Benjamin 22
Hetzel Church Baptisms 1839 pg 21
- Elisabeth b May 10 William Reder Conrath Reder
- bp May 18 & Elisabeth Catharina Shaffer
- 1841
- William Benjamin Sep 17 William Reder Benjamin Schneck
- bp Oct 24 & Elisabeth & Salma
- 1845
- Catharina b July 25 Conrod Röder William Röder
- bp Sep 26 & Catharina & Wf
Hetzel Church - Deaths 1842
Wilhelm Benjamin Rader b Sep 17, 1841; d Aug 7, 1842
Rader, Wilhelm Benjamin 3
Burks film # 26
Deaths of Revolutionary Soldiers compiled from files of "The Berks and Schuylkill Journal" and "Readinger Adler" in the library of the Historical Society of Berks County, Reading PA
Tuesday, January 24, 1832 Died on January 3d, Reading, Henry Reider, in his 86th year.
Index deaths Berks and Schuylkill Journal
pg 54 Jan 4, 1823
In Lewisburg Union County, on the 21st, ult in the 22d year of his age. George Reiter, cabinet maker for nierly of Reading (ed. must be Dec 21, 1822 ??)
Jan 11, 1823
pg 115 October 20, 1827
In this borough, on Tuesday the 9 th mist Mrs Catharine Wilson, wife of Thomas Wilson, and daughter of John Reiter, deceased, age 32 years, 5 months and 5 days after a lingering illness of seven years with the comsumption.
Deaths of former residents of Berks county or Pennsylvania who died outside the county or state copied from the Readinger Adler on file at the Historical society of Berks County 1931
- Adler December 31, 1822, In Lewisburg (Derrstown) Union county, George Reiter, 22 years, formerly of Reading
- October 4, 1825, On September 17, 1825, in Buffalo Township, Union County, George Ritter age 54 years, 1 month, 7 days, formerly of Ruscombusnor Township
- Adler, February 5, 1839, At Gibsons Hotel in Sunbury on January 30, 1839 John Reiter aged 40 years, formerly of Reading
- Adler Ocyober 25, 1842, In Wayne Co., Ohio, near Wooster Amos Reiter, son of William Reiter, aged 30 years, 29 days, formerly of Exeter Township, Berks Co.
- Adler, April 8, 1845. In Buffalo Township, Union Co. March 11, 1845 Susanna Ritter, widow of George Ritter aged 70 years 6 months 27 days, formerly of Berks Co.
- Adler May 9, 1848. A short while ago , in Catawissa, Columbia County, PA John Ritter , aged 87 years, born in Exeter Township, Berks County
- Adler August 8, 1854, in Pickaway County, Ohio, July 4, 1854 Henry Ritter aged 85 years 9 days, formerly of Berks Co. July 23, 1854, Mrs Ritter widow of the above aged 67 years, 20 day.
- Adler January 17, 1860 in Hartleton, Union County, January 5, 1860 George Reiter aged 78 years formerly of Rockland township, Berks Co., PA
Roll 28 Altalaha Lutheran, Rehrersburg 1757-1852
- Godfried Roehrer 1760 ?
- John Jacob Roehrer Anna Mary Feb 8, 1774
- may 20
- John George Raethor sponsor Dec 11, 1776
- Jacob Roedrer sponsor May 21, 1777
- Henry Roeler & wife Margaret Elizabeth Feb 24
- July 26,1778
- Jacob & Catherine Roehrer Jacob Aug 18,1880
- Sep 8
- Jacob & Catherine Roehrer Peter Feb 18, 1781
- Mar 17
Christ Little Tulephocken (german) see e.
Radebach see Ratenbach - Rathenbach
Ratenauer - Ratenaur - Rattenauer see Reithenauer
Rather 204
Radebach Jno.Geo. & wf
- Catharine 3-24-1760 S-Geo. Gaertner & his wife
- John Jacob 6-9-1763 6-13-1763 S- Nicholas Weigand & wf Mary Eliz
- Mary Eliz 8-30-1764 S-Christian Gruber & Susanna Beyer
- John Adam 7-9-1783 8-3-1783 S-Conrad Gilbert, Schoolmst. & wf Anna Elizabeth
Roll # 29 Host Reformed Church Tulpehocken twp, Berks Co, PA
Volume 2
pg 34
Elisabeth, born November 16, 1803 baptized May 21, 1804. Sponsors Caspar Ried and his wife Elizabeth, parents George Hay and his wife Barbara
pg 54
Maria, born February 11, 1821; baptized May 18. Sponsors, Caspar Reith and wife Elizabeth. Parents Michael Reith and Wife, Lea.
pg 65
Rebecca, Born August 8, 1835: baptized, October 11, 1835: sponsors : William Röder and wife Elizabeth. Parents, Michael Wolf and wife, Rebecca.
Baptism book for the people of the community Tulpehocken from the old church
Zions (reeds) Lutheran Church , Stouchsburg, PA
Born January 1st 1766 Joan Philipp and Joanes
baptized April 1st 1766
Born June 13th, 1762 Jos Frederich
Born 3rd March 1764 Anna Margareth
Born 1767 Johanes
born May 31st 1767 Anna Magdalena
bapticed June 22nd
MIC 34 Burks Co
Church Record of the Salem Lutheran & Reformed Congregation
MooreTownship, Northampton Co., 1774-1840
Johanes Wacker and Eva Cri. - Juliana M. b Nov 16, 1774 bapt. Jan 20, 1775 - sponsors Francis Cramle and Juliana Räder
Ludwig Röder and Maria Elisabeth Scherer - Anna Maria b. Febr 22, 1775 bapt Apr 14 (illegitimate) sponsors Christian Hammel and Christiana
Georg Pits and Maria Eva - Anna Margaretha b. July 25, 1775 bapt. Sep 4 - sponsors Peter Röder, Anna Margaretha Meister both single
Ludwig Heinrich Roeder and Elisabetha - Johann Henrich b Febr. 14, 1778 bapt. Apr 5 sponsors Johann Henr. Roeder and Anna Maria
roll 138
1. Trinity Tulpenhocken Reformed Church, Jackson twp, Lebanon Co., PA 1748-1884
John Reather Mary Elizabeth parents
Lavina b. Nov 25, 1862
bapt. Febr 2, 1863
2. St. John's Swatara Reformed congregation, Jonestown, Lebanon Co., PA 1740-1882
Raber, Maria 1775
Daniel 1800 ?
Rader, Daniel sp 1800
Margaretha sp 1800
Roder, Elisabeth sp 1825
Roeder, Elisabeth sp 1825
3. Heidleberg Evangelical Lutheran congregation Church Record 1758-1850 Heidleberg twp., Lehigh Co., PA
Conrad Roeder Johannes Roeder
and wife b Feb 18, 1773
Daniel Roeder
b. Oct 28, 1774
Heinrich Roeder Abraham
and wife b. May 17, 1777
Abraham Rader Sara
w Sarah Nov 5, 1816 - Jan 1, 1817
Daniel Roeder Daniel
w Margaretha Feb 11, 1811 - Apr 5, 1818
Abraham Roeder Heriete (Harriet)
w Sarah Dec 20, 1821 - Feb 3, 1822
Lutheran Baptisms from the private record of Pastor Daniel Schumacher
Adam Roeder Anna Barbara Abraham Antony
w Margaretha bp June 30, 1762 3 wks old Magdalena Schneider, single
Berks roll 139
Bern's Forebears: a guide to its graveyard read by Laurel Miller 1986
Caroline (NEE BETZEL) Reider (Nov 13, 1832-Dec 15, 1899) WIFE OF HEZEKIAH REIDER Hezekiah Reider (June 24, 1832 - Dec 18, 1896) "FATHER / HEZEKIAH REIDER /
Susan E. Potteiger (nee Reider) (Aug 7, 1857 - June 10, 1882) Aaron Potteiger.
Cara C.S. Reider (Feb 10, 1875 - April 13, 1885) dau Daniel Reider & Sarah Werner
St Pauls Lutheran Cemetery Lobachsville, Pikes twp, Berks Co., PA
David Reiter son of Samuel and Maria 20 DEC 1824-25 Jan 1854 29-1-5
Samuel Reider 24 AUG 1794-27 Jan 1856 61-5-3
Alice B Reider 1881-1913
Howard A Reider 1881-1913
Bowers, Maxatwny twp, Berks Co., PA (Delong's Church)
Nora M. Rader 1899-1982
Mahlon S. Rader 1893-1969
Annie E. M. Carl 'mo', w/o Mahlon Rader 28 July 1894 - 1 July 1916
William A. Rader 1889-1952
Ellen K. Rader 1891-1983
Rader, inf s/o William & Ellen stillb. 15 Oct 1915
Fisher, Minnie A. nee Rader 1892-19-
roll 65
1682 Chester county
1729 Lancaster county was formed and divided into two great townships" Tulpehocken and Lebanon
1734 Heidelberg township was formed out of the southwestern portion of Tulpehocken - Embracing Tulpehockentown
1739 Bethel Township was set apart also N.Eastern section of Lebanon
1750 Jacob Snavely murdered - famalies flee - beginning of indian wars
1752 Taxables in Heidelberg township English = 7, Germans = 124
1754 Indian fort built in Jackson twp (at that time Heidleberg)
1755 Defeat of General Braddock - more indian massacares
1756 Isaac Meyer deed land for school
1756 Breitenbach fort built. All large stone houses including Hergierode's, Bassler's and Miller's used as forts
1767 Indian massacre at german school myerstown
1768 Isaac Meier layed out the town of Tulpehocken but citizens insisted on calling it Meyer'stown.
1780 Slavery abolished in PA
1782 Great drought in Lebanon valley
1789 Dauphin County was formed, including Tulpehocken
1792 Washington and party visit Myerstown
1793 Myerstown riot - Washington revisits myerstown - Canal work began
One of our PARTICIPATING members asks the following Questions
Kathi Sittner - 682 18th Ave - Salt Lake City, UT 84103
(editors note - Kathi has just begun producing a
FRESHOUR NEWSLETTER.
The Quarterly newsletter is available from her)
John Rader ??
I think my John Rader concerns are a major issue that should be tackled by as many people as possible. It's just not fair to let people think they have their Rader line connected up correctly if it isn't the case. If you wish to discuss the matter with me, feel free to call
(evenings: 801-359-9787).
Do you have any clues concerning the parentage and descendants of John Jacob Röder who married Rosina Barbara Walter/Walther 19 Oct. 1755 at the First Reformed Church in Lancaster PA (by Philip Wm. Otterbein)
Editors note: WALTHER does not appear in the data base except for George Walther RADER g-g-grandson of Peter Hillikus Rader. Where did he get that middle name ?
He had a son John in 1756 baptized by Rev. Jacob Lischy and he was a baptismal sponsor at the New Hanover Lutheran Church. He was in the same area where the Froschauer/Freshour family was. Jacob Röder came to America on the ship Restauration in 1747.
I've received your FGR's on the John Raders of Greene Co., TN, and have been trying to find you some answers. I have not yet covered all of the available sources of information in the area or in Wythe Co., VA, but have some questions which you can answer for me before I continue... The most obvious men of child-bearing age in Greene Co. who could have had or did have a John are:
Henry,
Jacob,
John, and
Phillip of Wythe Co. who moved to Greene Co. about 1806;
Peter Rader who married Elizabeth Freshour;
George Rader who in the 1850 Greene Co. census was aged 77,
so born about 1773.
Do you show others?
There's also the possibility that a child named John could have been RELATED to one of the others and have come along with that family.
We can easily establish who the John, son of Henry, is by the administration records and cemetery records of Greene Co. He was born 11 Sep. 1793 and died 8 Nov. 1839, married Hannah Scott 22 Aug. 1814.
My only question here is why Henry named this John in his will, written in 1846 after John was already dead.
Editors note: my current information is that this John Rader married Elizabeth Ottinger in 1849 and had 13 children. His son John Wesley was born in 1867.
Next question concerns John Rader who married Mary Etter. Her will shows only children
Elizabeth Rader (md. William Rader of Henry 1820),
Lucinda Colyer,
Catherine Altorn (All trim),
Isabella Guthrie,
and Emaline Jenkins.
Where did the names of the other children - including John Jr., Sophia, Sally, Mary, Samuel, and William - come from? And what do you have which proves that the John Rader who married Ethelinda Smiley is his son? That info. seems a little suspect to me especially since you have the latter as born 1795 in Wythe Co./ but in the 1850 Greene Co. census he and his wife are shown as born in Tenn.
Jacob didn't seem to have had any John who reached maturity. There is no mention of one in his will, his widow's land records, etc. In one place there is mention of some "minor children"
Next question is Phillip who was obviously related to Henry, Jacob, and John. There were two men by this name in Wythe Co. with different wives -
Margaret and Rebecca - but I cannot find any mention of the Greene Co. Phillip's wife's name. Do you have it and the names of his kids? He seems to have moved away from Greene Co. or died without a will or administration) sometime after 1807. But he COULD have had a son John, and if Phillip died in Greene Co., this could be the source of one of those Johns. Thoughts? .......
Next there's George of 1850, born ca. 1773. He obviously had a son named Andrew with whom he was living at the time. But no other Raders seem to be living next to them. And they do not seem to be there in 1840, so may have come late to Greene Co. Can you connect them up to someone /somewhere?
.... I also question where to fit in Lemuel Rader who married Elizabeth Ann Myers and the two witnesses to Elizabeth's will in 1855, William and Cornelius Rader. Could these be sons of Phillip? Maybe this is the William who married Peggy Paysinger in 1824?
.....I believe that there were also a Rev. Andrew Rader and a Samuel + Delila Rader in Sinking Springs Church in the 1820's who I suppose might have been old enough to have had a son John born in the 1790's. And what about the Andrew Rader who md. Lydia Andes in 1834? Where does he fit in?
...Now, as for the Jefferson Co. John, there is an Elizabeth Rader who md. T. Summitt in that county in 1835. Perhaps by following this Elizabeth and finding her death certificate we could find out at least who her parents' names were, i.e. hopefully she's the daughter of the John Rader of Jefferson Co. and his wife Peggy. I think the Clarissa who married James Carmon may belong to this family, also. I 'ye been in contact with Sue Terando, who gave you the information that she was John ' s (who md. Catherine Kifer Murphy) child, and she now says she thinks that is an error. There is no evidence for Clarissa having ever come back to Tennessee to marry. It doesn't make sense
... Somebody in the IGI shows a John Rader md. a Mary in 1814 in Greene Co. Who does he belong to - or is this just incorrect?
.... Another thought on the John who married Catherine Kifer Murphy - could he possibly be related to the Jacob and Eve Rader who went to Rush Co., IN about the same time? I think Jacob and Eve came from VA, didn't they? I think this John may have been born in PA but have come through VA on his way to TN. I know it seems like he should belong to PeterJs family, but I just don't see how that can be if the tax records show him as being in Jefferson Co. from 1818 to 1836. Also, I found a land grant which shows he received land there on April 15, 1815. If born about 1791-2, as we suspect of Peter's son, he would have been of prime age to be striking out on his own, with or without a new wife. I wonder if he didn't marry in Cocke Co., where the records have been lost. Peter lived close to the county line, whereas the others lived farther away towards Hawkins Co
..... A few final thoughts on the Wythe Co . Raters ..There was a William Rader, with a wife Christiany, who died in 1802. Might he have had a John who, now without a father, went on to TN with the other Wythe Co. Raters? Do you know anything about the Wm. + Christiany Rader family? Also there were Daniel and Elizabeth (md. before 1805), Conrad and Elizabeth (ditto), and perhaps Samuel and Elizabeth (Guenther) Reader (md. before 1809).
It appears that many of these Rader males are sons of Conrad and Barbara... all originally of Northampton Co., PA, right? I haven't done the land records yet, so am reaching here.
.... Lastly, there is another John Rader in Gibson Co., TN by 1827, and he had a family by 1830 . Do you know anything about this man?
Did you find those RADER records at Johns Hopkins University ?
I can shed a bit of light for you on the Melvin Rader whose letters you are seeking from Johns Hopkins University, and perhaps you can help me in return. Melvin was my grandfather and was a noted professor of philosophy at the University of Washington in Seattle. He wrote many books including several philosophy textbooks (still used today) and a book entitled False Witness, which is his personal story of the time when he was wrongly accused a Communist during the McCarthy era.
As a liberal, politically-active man who was President of his local ACLU, he was a prime candidate for the accusation during a period of suspicion and repression. It took more than fifteen years to finally overcome the shadows of this accusation. I suspect that the letters which are found in the Johns Hopkins University concern his attempts to present Convincing evidence that he was NOT a communist.
I knew my grandfather as a very kind, quiet man, nonviolent both philosophically and literally; an extremely career-driven person; and the very essence of the absent-minded professor image. He was extremely bright and was a very well-liked professor at the university. Melvin Rader died of cancer on June 14, 1981 and is missed by all who knew him.
If you are able to receive copies of his correspondence, please send me copies, as I do not have them. I understand that he can also still be seen on TV now and then in the Seattle area, and the Univ. of Washington at Seattle supposedly has some tapes in which he is the speaker. To date, I have been unable to get copies but would LOVE to do so. Of course I would be happy to reimburse anyone who manages to get copies! Thanks... Sincerely,-
P.S. I haven't had time yet to search for the possible "other connection" for Peter and John Rader who may connect up with your Rader line, but plan to do so one of these days...
Queries
I collect antique photo albums and one in my collection includes photos of a Röder family of Kitzingen am Main, Germany. I believe that the Dorthea Röder in the album is the "Grandmother's Mother" to the HEY family. She had a sister Henrika and their parents appear to be Johann Georg Röder and Katharina.
This album came from the estate of a H. SCHAPER. The HEY immigrants came to the USA in the late 1800's. Lizzie, Dora M., Christian and "Old Dunta" settled in Allegheny City (now part of Pittsburg), Allegheny Co., PA.
If you know of anyone descended from this Röder family please let them know that this album is for sale -- but will only be sold to a descendant of this Röder family.
Nancy Bartoo, 5896 Kings School Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102
Where can I get the book about Henry Rader of NC ?
He settled in the western half of the province of North Carolina. In 1766 he bought 150 acres in what was Rowan County. This land was on Clark's Creek, near the present town of Maiden, NC
This book is available from it's author Cecile Rhodes Cannon, Rt 6, Box 446, Lenoir, NC 28645
This is the first in a series over 100 "Rader Stories" reprinted from The Descendants of ADAM AND ANNA MARIA RÖDER - JOHANN ADAM AND KATHARINA (TAUBER) RÖDER With the kind permission of Dr. William A. Rader and June L. (Hudnut) Rader (This book is available from them at 4638 Bay Shore Rd. Sarasota, FL 34234-4526)
THE CHALLENGE OF EXPLORING THE RöDER-RADER FAMILIES.
The most rewarding challenge in exploring the RADER family was in documenting the existence of the family in Pennsylvania and Virginia. There has always been a great deal of information available about the family, but most historians left the RADER families out of their writings. We believe it is appropriate to philosophize little about why this occurred in this, as well as other German families.
1. Germans were considered foreigners by the English in both Pennsylvania and Virginia. This more or less isolated them from other nationalities, especially the English. It was not until 1777 that a German held a political office in Rockingham County (the northern part of the original Augusta County) even though that county was inhabited mostly by Germans. Only two Justices were named at that time; one was ANTHONY RADER, (Generation 4 numbers 1.2.3.9.) In the minute Books of Rockingham County ANTHONY'S last name is spelled at least twelve different ways. Herbert Hoover, U.S. President from 1928-1932 was the first United States President to be of German descent and only the second to have a non-English name. Through the years many Hoovers were born in the Shenandoah Valley. Two of them married into the RADER family, one of whom was JESSE RADER who married DIANNE HOOVER in Rockingham Co., VA. before 1835 (see Generation 6, number 1.2.3.1.4.7.)
2. Like most Germans, the RADERS were a very close-knit family, living near one another until the early 18OO's. Even when they moved to other parts of the country, usually at least two families went together.
3. They were steadfast in their religious beliefs, but were not radicals or trouble makers. In fact, it appears they were just the opposite since there are very few court or church records that indicate they were in any kind of trouble.
4. They were all progressive farmers; most of them were hard working and well-to-do. They were deeply involved with their families and took pride in their work, which apparently caused some envy among other groups because the Germans worked so much better with their hands and with the land than did other nationalities.
5. They were involved with their neighbors, in signing marriage bonds, witnessing wills, land deeds, road improvements, minor court matters, administrators of wills, etc., but never were pretentious about it. (point can be made here in that there is no RADER family history, except one published by H. C. ROEDER in 1944 which several people have copied, although R. M. DANFORD added some information about the Timberville area e.g., the RADER house, the RADER Church and the RADER Mine(s). (3) ADAM and ANNA BARBARA and three of their sons, MATHIAS, ANTHONY and GEORGE, lived in close proximity to one another during most of their lives. Records of the three sons are found in numerous land transactions in Augusta Co., VA
6. There were many variations in spelling both the given and surname, often making it difficult to document a person or family. A good example of finding information about the RADER family in various types of documents is in the Following:
On December 23, 1748 ADAM and MATHIAS ROEDER witnessed the will of John Johnson. Knowing MATHIAS was the oldest child (as noted in (3) ADAM'S will and that he would have had to have been at least 21 years of age to witness the will), and since his parents, (3) ADAM and ANNA BARBARA) were married ca 1724 MATHIAS would have been born in 1725-1727. Also, DAVID RADERS Marriage Bond gave the maiden name of his mother; i.e., "father MATHIAS READER, mother JESSIE (BENDER) READER
Most of the RADER Families were quite religious (See pages 8 and 48) and supported their churches throughout the years. Before churches were established, many families held services in their homes both in Pennsylvania and Virginia. (See page 19) The RADERS had a direct involvement with at least four churches in this country: one was the Falkner Swamp Reformed Church, Gilbertsville, PA (See page 19); the second was the Davidson Church For Lutheran and Reformed in New market, VA (See page 85); the third was the RADER Lutheran Church near Timberville, VA (See page 56); the Fourth was the Immanuel Lutheran Church at RADER, Missouri
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